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Old 07-01-2008, 12:15 PM   #1
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Madden 09 PS3 1080i?

I did a search on this and it did not bring up any topics with a answer.

I am wondering if madden 09 for the PS3 will support a 1080i signal.

I think ncaa 09 for ps3 is ONLY 720p, which totally blows for me cause my tv supports all signals up to 1080i but not a 720p signal.

Anyone know if madden will save the year for me with a 1080i signal? also will headcoach have the same signal setup?
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Old 07-01-2008, 01:47 PM   #2
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Re: Madden 09 PS3 1080i?

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I did a search on this and it did not bring up any topics with a answer.

I am wondering if madden 09 for the PS3 will support a 1080i signal.

I think ncaa 09 for ps3 is ONLY 720p, which totally blows for me cause my tv supports all signals up to 1080i but not a 720p signal.

Anyone know if madden will save the year for me with a 1080i signal? also will headcoach have the same signal setup?
From my understanding 1080i & 720p is basically the same thing with a few differences in frame rate & resolution...1080p is the true jump in picture quality. Someone correct me if I'm wrong...

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Old 07-01-2008, 01:55 PM   #3
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[edit] 720p versus 1080i
Some broadcasters use 720p50/60 as their primary high-definition format; others use the 1080i standard. While 720p presents a complete 720-line frame to the viewer between 24 and 60 times each second (depending on the format), 1080i presents the picture as 50 or 60 partial 540-line "fields" per second (24 complete 1080-line fields, or "24p" is included in the ATSC standard though) which the human eye or a deinterlacer built into the display device must visually and temporally combine to build a 1080-line picture - in Chase Herrmann type display.

To get all 1080 interlaced lines to appear on the screen at the same time on a progressive high-definition display, the processor within the HD set deinterlaces incoming video by either weaving together two 540-line fiels, or by doubling lines in each field, effectively converting fields to frames. The first deinterlacing method is used for static scenes, the second one is used for scenes with motion. Cheaper TVs always use line doubling, while more expensive TVs use complex algorithms to analyze motion between two fields. Because of the deinterlacing, 1080i video with static scenes has more vertical than 720p video, while the resolution in moving scenes is lower because of field doubling.

While 1080i has more scan lines than 720p, they do not translate directly into greater vertical resolution. Interlaced video is usually blurred vertically (filtered) to prevent twitter. Twitter is a flickering of fine horizontal lines in a scene, lines that are so fine that they only occur on a single scan line. Because only half the scan lines are drawn per field, fine horizontal lines may be missing entirely from one of the fields, causing them to flicker. Images are blurred vertically to ensure that no detail is only one scan line in height. Therefore, 1080i material does not deliver 1080 scan lines of vertical resolution. However 1080i provides a 1920-pixel horizontal resolution, greater than 720p's 1280 resolution.
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Re: Madden 09 PS3 1080i?

Not quite sure what is with all that. I have a good understanding of all that.

My TV only supports NTSC standard, 480p, 1080i

Which means if madden is ONLY in 720p I am screwed. So I am trying to find out if it will support other signals like 1080i or 1080p
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[edit] 720p versus 1080i
Some broadcasters use 720p50/60 as their primary high-definition format; others use the 1080i standard. While 720p presents a complete 720-line frame to the viewer between 24 and 60 times each second (depending on the format), 1080i presents the picture as 50 or 60 partial 540-line "fields" per second (24 complete 1080-line fields, or "24p" is included in the ATSC standard though) which the human eye or a deinterlacer built into the display device must visually and temporally combine to build a 1080-line picture - in Chase Herrmann type display.

To get all 1080 interlaced lines to appear on the screen at the same time on a progressive high-definition display, the processor within the HD set deinterlaces incoming video by either weaving together two 540-line fiels, or by doubling lines in each field, effectively converting fields to frames. The first deinterlacing method is used for static scenes, the second one is used for scenes with motion. Cheaper TVs always use line doubling, while more expensive TVs use complex algorithms to analyze motion between two fields. Because of the deinterlacing, 1080i video with static scenes has more vertical than 720p video, while the resolution in moving scenes is lower because of field doubling.

While 1080i has more scan lines than 720p, they do not translate directly into greater vertical resolution. Interlaced video is usually blurred vertically (filtered) to prevent twitter. Twitter is a flickering of fine horizontal lines in a scene, lines that are so fine that they only occur on a single scan line. Because only half the scan lines are drawn per field, fine horizontal lines may be missing entirely from one of the fields, causing them to flicker. Images are blurred vertically to ensure that no detail is only one scan line in height. Therefore, 1080i material does not deliver 1080 scan lines of vertical resolution. However 1080i provides a 1920-pixel horizontal resolution, greater than 720p's 1280 resolution.
This is all true. However, the reason the OP asked this question is because the PS3 doesn't scale 720p to 1080i and some TVs do not support 720p. On those TVs, games that do not support 1080i are actually displayed in 480p, which is a considerable drop off in image quality.

Unfortunately, most EA Sports games are 720p native and do not support 1080i or 1080p on PS3.
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Re: Madden 09 PS3 1080i?

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I did a search on this and it did not bring up any topics with a answer.

I am wondering if madden 09 for the PS3 will support a 1080i signal.

I think ncaa 09 for ps3 is ONLY 720p, which totally blows for me cause my tv supports all signals up to 1080i but not a 720p signal.

Anyone know if madden will save the year for me with a 1080i signal? also will headcoach have the same signal setup?

To answer your question NO.

if you don't have 720 P it will automatically be set to 480
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To answer your question NO.

if you don't have 720 P it will automatically be set to 480
are u saying madden 09 for PS3 will ONLY be 720p?

Why does the 360 version of both NCAA and madden support up to 1080p but PS3 does not?
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Re: Madden 09 PS3 1080i?

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are u saying madden 09 for PS3 will ONLY be 720p?

Why does the 360 version of both NCAA and madden support up to 1080p but PS3 does not?
360 GPU has a built in scaler chip which does the work. On PS3 games it is more complicated and some developers choose not to go that route for whatever reason it may be: time, resources, etc.
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