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Old 07-31-2008, 12:21 PM   #41
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Re: Community Leaders Program Feedback

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The thing is, this thread wasn't even supposed to be about that. He went out of his way to explain that he only put the thread in the Madden forum due to the high amount of traffic & the fact that it is EA's flagship game. An EA Community Manager wanted feedback about the program in general, not nominations from the OS Madden community. What he has thus far is a classic forum frankenstein thread...
i agree with the program and why he posting this thread

too bad someone hi jacked this thread for self promotion and it went off track

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Before we got side tracked, this was a fantastic discussion. I'd like to continue it if anyone wants to get us back on topic.
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Old 08-05-2008, 05:45 AM   #43
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Kardashian,

Can you shed some insight on why the tourney players are the way they are. Not only in terms of how they play the game of madden (win at all cost) but why they are so insecure as people. It can't all be age related although I am sure that is some of it. Were they traumatized as children resulting in destruction of self esteem. Is it a means of garnishing attention? It is an indirect cry for help relating to their socio-economic status. Are they not successful with women. Are they the byproducts of excessive bullying in their neighberhoods, schools etc.. and they way they act is their backlash. I don't know why but their behavior is fascinating, like staring at a trainwreck sort of. Any insight would be interesting.
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Before we got side tracked, this was a fantastic discussion. I'd like to continue it if anyone wants to get us back on topic.
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Kardashian,

Can you shed some insight on why the tourney players are the way they are. Not only in terms of how they play the game of madden (win at all cost) but why they are so insecure as people. It can't all be age related although I am sure that is some of it. Were they traumatized as children resulting in destruction of self esteem. Is it a means of garnishing attention? It is an indirect cry for help relating to their socio-economic status. Are they not successful with women. Are they the byproducts of excessive bullying in their neighberhoods, schools etc.. and they way they act is their backlash. I don't know why but their behavior is fascinating, like staring at a trainwreck sort of. Any insight would be interesting.
I think this one has run its course...
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Kardashian,

Can you shed some insight on why the tourney players are the way they are. Not only in terms of how they play the game of madden (win at all cost) but why they are so insecure as people. It can't all be age related although I am sure that is some of it. Were they traumatized as children resulting in destruction of self esteem. Is it a means of garnishing attention? It is an indirect cry for help relating to their socio-economic status. Are they not successful with women. Are they the byproducts of excessive bullying in their neighberhoods, schools etc.. and they way they act is their backlash. I don't know why but their behavior is fascinating, like staring at a trainwreck sort of. Any insight would be interesting.
You sir are stereotyping. Not every competitive madden player is a demon possessed maniac who is so cheesy to the fact that they will go for 4th and 35 every time to moss all game. I'm a competiter and don't like to have to write a bunch of rules to keep myself in the game and boycott teams, so I practice to the point where I am 'cheese-proof', and/or can cheese better, strategically; than anybody else. My goal is to be able to play anyone, any team, any rules, any circumstance, and be the best I can be. It makes the game funner because I get to study more, learn it more in depth, study the AI, apply real football knowledge, and this is why I'd be such a great community leader if ever given the opportunity. But back to your stereotyping... it looks like you need a bit of coaching so you can hang with the big boys instead of coming here insulting. Don't worry though... just hope I become a community leader because if I do, there will never be anything cheesy or unrealistic in Madden ever again. I would be your new idol.

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You sir are stereotyping. Not every competitive madden player is a demon possessed maniac who is so cheesy to the fact that they will go for 4th and 35 every time to moss all game. I'm a competiter and don't like to have to write a bunch of rules to keep myself in the game and boycott teams, so I practice to the point where I am 'cheese-proof', and/or can cheese better, strategically; than anybody else. My goal is to be able to play anyone, any team, any rules, any circumstance, and be the best I can be. It makes the game funner because I get to study more, learn it more in depth, study the AI, apply real football knowledge, and this is why I'd be such a great community leader if ever given the opportunity. But back to your stereotyping... it looks like you need a bit of coaching so you can hang with the big boys instead of coming here insulting. Don't worry though... just hope I become a community leader because if I do, there will never be anything cheesy or unrealistic in Madden ever again. I would be your new idol.
To stereotype I would have to assert something to be true. I did not state anything I asked about to be truth. It was all speculative but still truth seeking. I seek to better understand life behavior I find interesting. It just happens to show up in how a video game is played by "most-vast majority" of madden tourney players.

Speaking to your point though, where does the hyper competitive drive come from. I would speculate but I tend to think that would be misconstrued as stereotyping. As the online portion of the game has never interested me I dont need any coaching, sounds like you would be a good one though.

If you follow through on what you propose here you would be my idol. A simulation of the real game of Nfl Football is what I am after as you have deduced, not an ego-ridden glitch, ai exploit fest.

Sorry to hijack the thread, this group of people has simply fascinated me and continues to do so. Although I did not get the insight I was looking for thanks for the response.
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I think this one has run its course...
I agree. What a complete waste. Just paints a poor picture on our community.
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Ill bite on this thread and topic.

Is a community feedback program a good idea? Of course it is. Will it be used like the community would hope it should be used? No.

A good community program, if taken seriously would work. However, there is a track record here already that shows a community program, such as the one that is in place today, is useless.

EA brought community leaders down here already. From hearing the feedback from the community leaders, not one thing that was an issue was fixed. They bring them down here very late in the production cycle, throw pizza parties and events for "community leaders", listen to maybe one word that the leaders had to share about the game, packed them up, shipped them home and released the game without taking anything into account that had been brought up by the "community leaders".

All the feedback they could ever need is posted in any one of various sports games forums, and it doesnt require bringing in a group of people to do it.

If EA would bring them in alot earlier in the dev cycle, and try to implement things or change things that need to be addressed, then thats one thing. However, you and I both know that will never happen. The excuse will always be " its an early build, its beta build", then next you know its gone gold and in our hands and nothing has been fixed.

I think the majority of the boards know the community leader program is nothing more than public relations and marketing propaganda. Matter of fact, the only way you got noticed by EA is your role in your own website that promoted every positive aspect of the game, and banned everyone that had a negative opinion.
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