More info on CPU Sliders (from EA)

[Nza]

Quote: Originally Posted by ifiok25

Man, don't we all look stupid now? People always whine about EA's changes.

No, I don't think so. It's still likely a step back for sim/hc users. It puts a fair few CPU sliders (not all) into the hands of the game's difficulty setting.

What EA have basically done is taken away some CPU sliders that were redundant (CPU break block, CPU tackle etc) since they have a human slider opposite, and then replaced the other CPU sliders (QBA, Catch, run ability, def awr) with a slider that can have 5 different settings from rookie to beyond all-madden. This system relies too heavily on the difficulty settings delivering, plus it bunches a few sliders together - CPU QBA and CPU catch are now seemingly shared by the Top level Human Pass D difficulty slider.

It is not a flawed design per se, it just places very little room for error in how a certain aspect such as CPU accuracy is hard coded. If it takes a low human pass D slider to make CPU QBA realistic, it may render them too stupid, for instance.

[HuskAir]

Quote: Originally Posted by bull

You know, he might be onto something here. If we lower the QB ratings that might tone down the Robo QB's. Would be a pain, but not too difficult. Perhaps Abner can take a stab at this, and see if it has any impact.

Do you know how many QBs there are? Once you start editing starters, backups will begin jumping them...and then their backups. If you forget QBs in the free agency, teams will begin swiping them up. Sounds like a load of frustration for me, unless there is a way for EA to do a global awareness adjustment (oh wait, that's what a slider is for.)

[JBucc]

Quote: Originally Posted by mvb34

Maybe editing the QB individual rating?

Maybe they could do a roster update that universally drops the QBA ratings by 10 or 15 or whatever gives the best results.

[ifiok25]

Quote: Originally Posted by Nza

No, I don't think so. It's still likely a step back for sim/hc users. It puts a fair few CPU sliders (not all) into the hands of the game's difficulty setting. What EA have basically done is taken away some CPU sliders that were redundant (CPU break block, CPU tackle etc) since they have a human slider opposite, and then replaced the other CPU sliders (QBA, Catch, run ability, def awr) with a slider that can have 5 different settings from rookie to beyond all-madden. This system relies too heavily on the difficulty settings delivering, plus it bunches a few sliders together - CPU QBA and CPU catch are now seemingly shared by the Top level Human Pass D difficulty slider. It is not a flawed design per se, it just places very little room for error in how a certain aspect such as CPU accuracy is hard coded. If it takes a low human pass D slider to make CPU QBA realistic, it may render them too stupid, for instance.

Sorry for sounding so blunt. So are there new sliders as well? I hope so. They've had the same ones forever. Hopefully in game saves made the game too.

[ab2c4]

I know the EA guys are doing their best attempt at damage control here but I'm just not buying it. They keep saying what is in the game and how you can use it, etc, but none of that really matters because without having working cpu sliders the game is broken or unfinished (whatever term you want to use) and I gaurantee we won't be seeing realistic stats in our games this year when playing games vs cpu.

As many others have mentioned, I know I want and need to be able to adjust the cpu accuracy as well as a few other cpu traits or I will never ever get realistic stats.

[bad_philanthropy]

Quote: Originally Posted by bull

You know, he might be onto something here. If we lower the QB ratings that might tone down the Robo QB's. Would be a pain, but not too difficult. Perhaps Abner can take a stab at this, and see if it has any impact.

This would only be a viable option for playing exhibition games. Playing online where a default roster is mandatory or playing franchise where player progression takes place and rookies enter the league with an awareness rating scaled to the normal way the awareness rating is in the game would render this option useless.

[callmetaternuts]

Quote: Originally Posted by JBucc

Maybe they could do a roster update that universally drops the QBA ratings by 10 or 15 or whatever gives the best results.

That wont happen

Lets see what we as a community can figure out how to adjust the game. Give Ian some help, he asked what did he think he would NOT modify with the sliders as is. I listed a couple, are there other? Like Pared said, some we cant directly adjust the CPU, we adjust our sliders and in turn it effects how CPU plays

[Nza]

Quote: Originally Posted by ifiok25

Sorry for sounding so blunt. So are there new sliders as well? I hope so. They've had the same ones forever. Hopefully in game saves made the game too.

Ian's post outlines the new sliders. The whole structure is new.

I think it's quite possible we may be able to achieve decent sim gameplay against the CPU in 09.....we just may not have much control doing it. It's going to rely HEAVILY on how well the gameplay is coded AI wise from an overall sense.