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Old 08-20-2008, 12:29 PM   #65
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Re: MLB 08 the Show vs. Madden 09

All these games are based off of last gen, in essence. I don't see your point.
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Old 08-20-2008, 12:51 PM   #66
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Re: MLB 08 the Show vs. Madden 09

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Yes, the gameplay can be the same on both platforms with some proper tuning of the animations. Have you played the PS2 version of NBA 2k8? Not very far off. You can tell just where the proper resources are (And adequately so).

And The Show has made tremendous improvements to their baseball graphically, and NBA 2k has not. It's people's gripe with the game year in and year out. Sure, it looks better... but they are always asking for a new graphics engine. They know it's based on the old one.

It's the same argument you're using to say you don't like the game, albeit on a different area of the game. All you're saying is that as long as the graphics are fine keep fine-tuning my gameplay. SCEA SD took a different approach and had the gameplay set and delivered with an amazing, new graphics engine and lighting system. Why? Because the gameplay was solid to begin with... much like 2k's graphics were solid to begin with.

Do you see the correlation and how you're holding one to a different standard than the other?
In this situation it's my opinion, it's not suppose to be objective, it's different from the other thread.

I own CH2K7 for regular Xbox and it's awful in comparison to the PS3/360 version, it doesn't even feel like it's made by the same company. I know The Show has made huge strides graphically (every game has nex-gen) and that's why I was only talking about game play to begin with. Even if you view things in a more narrow scope and look at just the game play of The Show 08 vs CH2K8 and none of their previous history I still think CH has a decent edge in the overall game play department.

As for the graphics, they improved a ton from NBA2K7 to 2K8. Remember the arena/court thread from last Fall? I dunno, I'm not as big of a graphics whore as other gamers but I think you're crazy if you think NBA2K8 has poor graphics.

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If someone doesn't think that's a huge improvement I don't know what to tell them. 2K7 looks like a PS2 game by comparison. IMO NBA2K has made a bigger leap graphically than The Show has game play wise.
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There isn't a big difference in those two screen shots, ehh. They moved/changed a few stands, boards, etc. and changed the color palette.

I guess you're more easily impressed by the changes. Sure, it's things that we want... but The Show did similar things with the baserunning controls, player reaction time and so forth. Just like 2k's graphics engine, why really fix something that isn't broken?

I know it's your opinion and I respect that, but I still believe you're holding them to a different standard.

And for the record, neither of the two games are perfect. To stay on topic, neither is Madden. But I still can see the advancements they are making... and in the scope they are in... and appreciate them. Madden has finally started working on the things I would've liked to see them work on in the previous 2 years. I still would like to see some more player personalization.

BTW, The Show has only had 2 cycles of development while the NBA series has had 3... and is going on 4.
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Old 08-20-2008, 01:32 PM   #68
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My biggest problem with The Show is the game play, it's still last-gen. It's been the same game for 3-4 years in a row now, I own both the PS2 and PS3 version of 08 and the game play is exactly the same. Plus it remains a singles-fest for me. Many people say they get great hit variety but regardless of sliders I have never gotten great hit variety over the years.

Both 2K basketball titles (it's really a preference which you like more, pro or college) are enormous leaps in game play compared to PS2/Xbox versions of older 2K basketball games. Show diehards always counter this fact with the old, "If it ain't broke don't fix it line" but I don't buy it. It's not broke but it needs a pretty substantial face lift, IMO.
this was my first time ever playing THE SHOW so i cant comment on previous versions.

i agree with ur comment on the hit variety though at times. ill go several games where every hit is a single. then ill have a game or two where im getting all types of doubles and different hit variety. that bugged me a bit in the beginning when i was reading the boards and everybody was saying the same thing. but after a while i just dealt with it. i can see how it could be a possible "game killer" for you since u have been playing the game for several years. but for me i can still enjoy the game. its just too good in all other areas to look down on it for me.

for people who pick NBA 2K8 over the show i dont argue with u cuz i love that game as well. THE SHOW gets the edge for me in "the little things" and Commentary. The Show easily any sports game ever played in the commentary department.

Madden 09 is great game in my opinion and i hope they continue to add more things to make the game more authentic. if it can get on THE SHOW'S level ill be in gaming heaven. my ps3 will only see 3 discs: NBA 2K, MADDEN, and THE SHOW!!!
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the show Ive had players lose bats into the crowd, pretend to give the ball to the pitcher then try to tag the player out at third so on and so on. I like Madden alot this year but #1 sports game goes to the show.
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There isn't a big difference in those two screen shots, ehh. They moved/changed a few stands, boards, etc. and changed the color palette.

I guess you're more easily impressed by the changes. Sure, it's things that we want... but The Show did similar things with the baserunning controls, player reaction time and so forth. Just like 2k's graphics engine, why really fix something that isn't broken?
thats a pretty big jump in graphics man. its not like its just a touch up. and i agree with ehh, NBA 2K8 has great graphics.
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Re: MLB 08 the Show vs. Madden 09

The changes aren't big, from a graphical standpoint. If you feel they are, then they accomplished their goal with what they had to work with.

All that really means is 2k found a way to make you think the changes were huge. They really aren't.

Honestly, if you think that is huge, then The Show, Madden, NCAA... all these other games' graphics must seem monumental. It's actually quite humorous to read considering what was done.
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Re: MLB 08 the Show vs. Madden 09

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The changes aren't big, from a graphical standpoint. If you feel they are, then they accomplished their goal with what they had to work with.

All that really means is 2k found a way to make you think the changes were huge. They really aren't.

Honestly, if you think that is huge, then The Show, Madden, NCAA... all these other games' graphics must seem monumental. It's actually quite humorous to read considering what was done.
That's what I don't get, what's the difference between The Show's graphical improvements and 2K's? So many people mentioned the lighting in The Show and how amazing that is, I don't see how you can say that's such a big improvement and then not look at those two comparison pics of MSG and say the same thing? I mean, after reading The Show forums you'd think all a sports game needs to be great is to have proper lighting effects.
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