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Old 09-26-2008, 03:12 AM   #121
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Re: AI Comeback was never removed from EA games

I'm officially done with this game until they come out with a patch regarding Franchise gameplay! I just played a game with Lions (me) vs Bears and Bears smoked me 40 something to 21 before I turned it off.

Now I made my own QB, who has a 90 speed, 94 agility, 99 acceleration. I do a singleback play. I notice nobody open, and I run out the pocket but guess who comes hunting me down? Tommie Harris, who has a 77 speed. Dude put on his after burner and got me from about 15 yards away! Now, i'm no genius mathematician but I believe something is wrong with this math.

But that's only the beginning. Actually, the beginning, I was killing them 21-0 but all of a sudden, CPU seems to get fed up with it and "decides" to blow me out by 2nd half 28-21.

Defenders seem to be all juiced up and angry once I score. It fuels them. But lets' be realistic. There is something highly wrong with the programming. AI comeback was never removed. It sneaks in during a blowout. There's no consistency. It could be Lions vs anybody and the same results will come, Super LBs covering like Deion Sanders in his prime, Robo QB throwing off the backfoot for complete passes even by scrubs such as Matt Cassel, no blocking scheme, you try to control a defender for a sack blitz, robo qb comes out, it's ridiculous.

I'm officially done. Thanks EA for the lazy programming. The game doesn't even look that good graphically. At first, I was in awe. But after awhile, it's sets in, this game was hyped up from the beginning and I just wanted it to be what I wanted it to be, but in the end it just failed, to me. After looking at games like Fifa, MLB The Show 08, etc, it dawned on me, these games must have spoiled me to lose interest in Madden's graphics. I don't know what it is, but i'm just frustrated and sick of how mediocre this game really is. Especially waiting for the patch all this time to witness some really questionable plays regarding the "new" QB/K/P delay. Did I mention how the ball just floats and barely rotates?

Whatever happened to the old franchise? I think the last time I really enjoyed a Madden franchise was in 05. Whatever happened to those days?
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Old 09-26-2008, 05:48 AM   #122
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lol at the direction this thread is turning (not surprised though). I'll just say that I think those in here defending some of the crazy things that happen in Madden with "that's just football" are alomost as frustrating as those that complain about everything. I would agree that what happened is not comeback AI, but that doesn't mean that it's true to football. Players warping, going through eachother, standing lifeless in one spot while the game goes around them, everyone able to effectively break tackles (and some in physically impossible ways), O-linemen catching DB's, etc. You could go on forever about all the ways Madden does not properly represent football. Even Ian openly admits to much of this and is determined to fix it. Does this make it a horribley inaccurate representation of the sport? IMO, no, but that doesn't mean that cetain complaints aren't warranted.

Here's my take on the OP's issue. I agree that what happened shouldn't have, it's not realistic and it wouldn't happen in the NFL...regardless of the "sh!t happens" defenses. I disagree, however, that it is comeback AI as it can happen at any point in the game no matter the score. Clearly without seeing for ourselves what happened it's hard to judge either way. Anyway, enough of my rambling...on with the arguments
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Old 09-26-2008, 08:02 AM   #123
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It's stuff like this that drives me crazy but this is really not a big deal. I'm glad I got the highlights to work. Yayy Me! I'll try to dupe some of the craziest plays that should never happen in the NFL and hopefully I can make a case. It really sucks that most of the highlights weren't saved.







I honestly don't know what is wrong with that play. The safety had the angle on Hester. I noticed you said the LB was giving chase but after Hester catches the ball the gap between Hester and the LB goes from 2yds to around 6 or 7yds.
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Old 09-26-2008, 08:08 AM   #124
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I honestly don't know what is wrong with that play. The safety had the angle on Hester. I noticed you said the LB was giving chase but after Hester catches to the ball the gap between Hester and the LB goes from 2yds to around 6 or 7yds.
And the CB is running full speed at Hester, makes a 180 degree turn and never loses speed and barely any ground. There is no deceleration in this game unless you have the ball in your hands.
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Old 09-26-2008, 01:14 PM   #125
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And the CB is running full speed at Hester, makes a 180 degree turn and never loses speed and barely any ground. There is no deceleration in this game unless you have the ball in your hands.
HAHAHH that's what I'm saying. It just happens that Hester found a whole and with his speed that should have been a TD. Have you seen Hester's ratings? There's no way in hell anyone can catch this guy. I have yet to return a TD from a kick off or punt return with Hester. It's kinda funny how everyone around me is faster but if I'm controlling Hester he's slow. I really wish I had saved that one video where I actually looked like Devin Hester in real life until the damn kicker caught me and spoiled my run.
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There is no deceleration in this game unless you have the ball in your hands.
Bingo.
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