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Old 10-09-2008, 05:26 PM   #25
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You are 100% correct.
I wonder what games they're watching, cuz it sure isn't the ones being played in Pittsburgh.
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Old 10-09-2008, 05:35 PM   #26
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I wonder what games they're watching, cuz it sure isn't the ones being played in Pittsburgh.
You see, I'm not really sure they understand the intricacies of football games.
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Old 10-09-2008, 05:41 PM   #27
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A lot of great suggestions.

I will say this:

It seems like every Madden 09 player I know has turned to NBA 2K9. I'm hearing amazing things about that game.
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Old 10-09-2008, 05:43 PM   #28
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Let's take a look at where the 2k basketball franchise is in relation to the Live Basketball series, I think the same would be said for the football franchises if 2k was able to make a game and improve on what they had with 2k5.

04' was a great gaming period, Live 05 was a great game as well as NBA 2k5, Madden and NFL 2k5 where also great, then 2k started to pull away in basketball and they never got another chance with football, signature styles would've been implemented for football years ago look at All Pro (signature styles Montana, Unitas, Marino all different in there own respects, the crowd interaction and sideline interaction your asking for is in All Pro. Im sorry if I'm beating a dead horse, It's just alittle frustrating knowing what we have and dreaming of what we could have.

I think the 2k football franchise to the Madden football franchise would be in the same position as there respective basketball franchises are now. I was giving Madden a chance, don't get me wrong it is a good game, but just bland. Picking up 2k9 the other day was a real eye opener and made me dissapointed that such a great sport like football can't get a great representation.
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Old 10-09-2008, 05:52 PM   #29
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After watching NFL and playing Madden 09 then playing NBA 2k9 I realized what is wrong with Madden



(A.I.)
1.The Players need Tendencies just like Basketball games.Vince Young plays the same as Tom Brady.

2.Play Calling needs a reworking it's almost horrible.It should be based on the teams playing style,Coaches,and situation of the game.

3.Adapting...There is none whatsoever....After Halftime it should be game plan changes if things aren't going correctly.

4.Mismatches...The cpu doesn't recognize them on either side of the ball...The cpu should exploit your weaknesses

5.Audibles,hot routes,adjustments,etc... The cpu needs to use alot more especially a smart qb when they see a mismatch or a blitz coming.

(Gameplay)
1.The WR/DB interaction needs an overhaul.....They need to fight for position on passing plays they just run right by each other.

2.(Blocking) OL/DL interaction.....Blocking is horrid.....players block the wrong person and it's usually not a very good block either....OL needs to form more of a pocket

3.Robo QB....My problem is when players are running around and throwing perfect passes along with pressure on the cpu and they're making perfect passes.

4.Short yardage runs....It needs to be more of who has a better push up front rather than blocking...which is where pile ups come into affect

5.Pile ups...There is none whatsoever.....It should be numerous pile ups throughout the game for ex...Kickoff returns,Fumbles,Short Yardage runs,and Goaline runs

6.Ratings....They really need to distinguish a 73 WR from a 96 WR....73 OL vs. a 96 OL,73 QB vs. 96 B,etc....

7.Team Play Styles and Tempo.....Every team should have a certain play style and tempo that they try to establish like for example Colts Run N Gun vs. The Bears grind it out

(Graphics,Animations,Presentation)
1.Crowd is bad Look wise and sound wise

1st is looks

There is no merchandise,game signs around the stadium,and also the crowd stands the whole time....The crowd should sit and they should stand when a big play errupts or it's crunch time.

Example cheese heads in Green Bay it should be team specific for Merchandise,signs,etc...
http://www.packersgameday.com/pictur...02/stands5.jpg

2nd Sound
It should be very loud in the stadium when it's a big game,close game,etc...

Also add chants like M-V-P-(Certain players),OVERRATED,J-E-T-S- JETS JETS JETS,etc.....

2.Sidelines and endzones....It's just not enough people on the field..Players,Camera man,reporters,Coaches,security,Cheerleaders,etc...

3.Interactive Sidelines...They really need these for when players get hit out of bounds,big play reactions,touch down celebrations,etc...

4.Big Game recongnition-Monday night Football,Sunday night Football,Primetime game,Thursday night Football,Thanksgiving Day,Two Powerhouses,Playoffs,etc.... They should reciever special presentation and coverage and all of them should be covered in a different manner

5.Halftime Highlights and advice for 2nd half sucess,2 minute warning Gamebreaks and Game highlights,Post Game coverage

6.Animations need alot of improvement for example sideline catching

7.On Field Refs,Chain Gain,Field Dedgration,Weather Effects,Injury Carts
Nice. I agree 100%.
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Let's take a look at where the 2k basketball franchise is in relation to the Live Basketball series, I think the same would be said for the football franchises if 2k was able to make a game and improve on what they had with 2k5.

04' was a great gaming period, Live 05 was a great game as well as NBA 2k5, Madden and NFL 2k5 where also great, then 2k started to pull away in basketball and they never got another chance with football, signature styles would've been implemented for football years ago look at All Pro (signature styles Montana, Unitas, Marino all different in there own respects, the crowd interaction and sideline interaction your asking for is in All Pro. Im sorry if I'm beating a dead horse, It's just alittle frustrating knowing what we have and dreaming of what we could have.

I think the 2k football franchise to the Madden football franchise would be in the same position as there respective basketball franchises are now. I was giving Madden a chance, don't get me wrong it is a good game, but just bland. Picking up 2k9 the other day was a real eye opener and made me dissapointed that such a great sport like football can't get a great representation.
It really is a shame. Just to think what could have been. I have literally broken down crying a few times just thinking about it. If Madden 2010 does not have signature animations then I am done with sports gaming. PERIOD.
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I can't believe I'm actually saying this, but after buying and playing NBA 2K9, I'm taking back Madden 09. 2K Sports has always had a great feel for sports games. The presentation and CPU AI is unbelievable in NBA 2K9. It feels like the players have their own style and feel, something EA Sports has never done. It's a shame that Madden has the NFL license, because this nonsense wouldn't be happening right now. I've bought Madden since I was in high school (class of '92), but I think next year I will pay Blockbuster a visit prior to any purchases. For now, it's time to get my game on with NBA 2k9!

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I can't believe I'm actually saying this, but after buying and playing NBA 2K9, I'm taking back Madden 09.

Well, I'm not going to take back Madden 09, but I plan on buying NBA 2K9. The demo is great.

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I'm with you on that. Expectations for Madden 2010 are really, really high. I hope it delivers.
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