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Old 10-14-2008, 04:11 PM   #33
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Re: Honestly, Madden 09 the game that's sucked the enthusiasm out of me

To be COMPLETELY honest and open with you:

It's not a bad game, but the development team either does not understand what makes the game fresh and exciting 2 months down the line in this day and age....

OR

The influence of the CEO's and NFL License Managers is just too heavy handed in making this game what it is.

Even with its flaws, everything done by this company seems to be half-hearted:

Let's add some new commentators... even though one sounds terrible.

Let's add some new, controllable celebrations... even though they don't look like they belong in the game.

Let's add the new dynamic play to your level option... even though teams have no specific play-calling styles.

There isn't much left to say at this point for video game football from my end... I've moved on to the other sports where they have left football in the dust. 5 years ago I would have never thought this is where these games would be.
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Old 10-14-2008, 04:26 PM   #34
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It's pretty interesting to go back now and read the "Producer Blogs" at EA's website from May and June, where they talked about the changes to this year's game to get us all hyped. Even more interesting, I saw this collection of "reviews" from EA's site...sure makes me wonder what game they were playing, and what exactly EA does to get these favorable reviews (almost makes me want to throw up):

"The reviews are here, see what people are saying about Madden NFL 09...

A+ 1UP.com

"...Even with our complaints, this is a football game that one-ups the stakes between the sidelines, and it's so visually impressive that it's likely to stick in your system all season long..." Read full review


5/5 G4TV

"...The new commentating team, Backtrack replays, soundtrack, and improved graphics really packs that extra punch of realism making this game a must buy..." Read full review


9.3/10 XboxAddict

"...The game will satisfy the appetite of both casual and hardcore football fans and its mixes those two worlds together very well..." Read full review


A- Gaming Age

"...Everything from the visuals, audio, and presentation have been bumped up a notch to a level that would make any fan who has turned their heads for the last 3 years take notice..." Read full review


4.5/5 GamePro

"...The controls are tight and responsive, and the overall flow of an NFL contest feels realistic..." Read full review


9/10 Official Xbox Magazine

"... We're happy to report that Madden NFL 09 represents the pinnacle of the modern Madden era..." Read full review


8.8/10 IGN

"...Madden NFL 09 is the most loyal translation of America's favorite sport I've ever seen. It looks great, plays great, and despite its few moments of inaccuracies, is still one of the best sports games in memory..." Read full review


8.8/10 Planet Xbox 360

"...The new features tossed into the game give Madden 09 a bit of everything for everyone who enjoys football..." Read full review"
and those reviews were written before Patch#1 even
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Alot of good posts in this thread.

Madden is a good game.

It's just the same game. I think we're all a little weary of playing essentially the same game since Madden '01. We've never seen that leap like we did then.

We're just tired.

NBA 2K is gonna have this issue soon too. But I've skipped years of NBA 2K, so to me it's fresh and I'm addicted to it. With no Choops 2K9 this year it's all I got.

I think I'm actually gonna keep Madden this year though. Because it won't be much better next year. And when I do get a jonez I can play it.

I actually feel the same about Head Coach. Great potential, but the on the field game play just sucks. There's no nice way to say it. It's boring....REALLY boring. As much as the off the field stuff is cool, the game is just boring. I aint got time for boring anymore.
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Alot of good posts in this thread.

Madden is a good game.

It's just the same game. I think we're all a little weary of playing essentially the same game since Madden '01. We've never seen that leap like we did then.

We're just tired.

NBA 2K is gonna have this issue soon too. But I've skipped years of NBA 2K, so to me it's fresh and I'm addicted to it. With no Choops 2K9 this year it's all I got.

I think I'm actually gonna keep Madden this year though. Because it won't be much better next year. And when I do get a jonez I can play it.

I actually feel the same about Head Coach. Great potential, but the on the field game play just sucks. There's no nice way to say it. It's boring....REALLY boring. As much as the off the field stuff is cool, the game is just boring. I aint got time for boring anymore.
No, Madden is not a good game. It is a mediocre bordering on bad game. When you get tired of playing it after 10 games then there is a problem.
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No, Madden is not a good game. It is a mediocre bordering on bad game. When you get tired of playing it after 10 games then there is a problem.
Am I supposed to say yeah it is and stick my tongue out?
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Old 10-14-2008, 05:05 PM   #38
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I threw 2k5 into the 360 yesterday, and realized how much more engaging that game is, even with 4-year old rosters. Tendencies were there. Little animations were great, and the game played phenomenal. I can't even imagine how awesome it will be once I get current rosters.

Madden 09, gameplay wise, is ok. Not great, but ok. But it's boring and nothing captures you. Few stat overlays. The overlays themselves don't even take advantage of ESPN's license. That baffles me. No atmosphere in the stadium whatsoever.

The sad part is ESPN trumpeted their improved presenation, and it's still 10x worse than 2k5.
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I think we need to make a single thread that all of us feel that this engine is simply broken and to let Ian know to stop building on it. Cause for 4 years know its been to no prevail. Either scratch it and start fresh or port PS2 version over with keeping the graphics the same. I think most would agree that PS2 version plays the best but untill you try it you might not know.

They need to stop wasting their's/our's time on this game that no matter what you add to it is still broken. The foundation was built with sand instead of steal. So no matter how much you try and dress it up it will eventually crumble and fall.

The scary thing to me is if they really believed that 09 was a great product . I pray that was just good marketing. I know Ian is a football fan and I hope when he sits down and plays it he feels just like us and can't.

09 has some good things but to many bad things to even allow us to enjoy the good.

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It's pretty interesting to go back now and read the "Producer Blogs" at EA's website from May and June, where they talked about the changes to this year's game to get us all hyped. Even more interesting, I saw this collection of "reviews" from EA's site...sure makes me wonder what game they were playing, and what exactly EA does to get these favorable reviews (almost makes me want to throw up):

"The reviews are here, see what people are saying about Madden NFL 09...

A+ 1UP.com

"...Even with our complaints, this is a football game that one-ups the stakes between the sidelines, and it's so visually impressive that it's likely to stick in your system all season long..." Read full review


5/5 G4TV

"...The new commentating team, Backtrack replays, soundtrack, and improved graphics really packs that extra punch of realism making this game a must buy..." Read full review


9.3/10 XboxAddict

"...The game will satisfy the appetite of both casual and hardcore football fans and its mixes those two worlds together very well..." Read full review


A- Gaming Age

"...Everything from the visuals, audio, and presentation have been bumped up a notch to a level that would make any fan who has turned their heads for the last 3 years take notice..." Read full review


4.5/5 GamePro

"...The controls are tight and responsive, and the overall flow of an NFL contest feels realistic..." Read full review


9/10 Official Xbox Magazine

"... We're happy to report that Madden NFL 09 represents the pinnacle of the modern Madden era..." Read full review


8.8/10 IGN

"...Madden NFL 09 is the most loyal translation of America's favorite sport I've ever seen. It looks great, plays great, and despite its few moments of inaccuracies, is still one of the best sports games in memory..." Read full review


8.8/10 Planet Xbox 360

"...The new features tossed into the game give Madden 09 a bit of everything for everyone who enjoys football..." Read full review"
Another reason why these mainstream reviews suck donkey poo.
These idiots play the game three or four days and declare games "the greatest evah!"
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