STR and MOVABILITY

[FadeEmAll]

Reps = muscle endurance not overall STR. That's why lineman should have MOVABILITY no DT should get trucked by a RB regardless of their STR, because STR does not translate to running over 350lb DL. I might bench more than some average fat guy but I damn sure aint about run that fool over.

[ImReady77]

Quote: Originally Posted by carnalnirvava

we understand that he did more reps, but this same back is NOT going to throw off Stroud next year IF he gets drafted. he is not going to drop his shoulder and send some DT flying in mid air with a broken jaw. the animation is bad, i have never in my 15 yrs watching football seen a DT get smashed like they do in madden and even is a cb got ran over its still not like madden they just need realistic animations.

I agree!! There's more to strength than the bench press. Leg strength is more important to o-linemen anyway. There are people smaller than me that bench more than me but they are not physically stronger than me. With the bench you have to also take in to consideration arm length too. People with shorter arms need less arm extension to finish a rep than people with longer arms so it's easier for the shorter arm people to bench than longer arm people.

[da ThRONe]

Everybodies point about strength has merit I can say that. Like I said the problem is less about strength and more about weight. For example if I weight 215 lbs and have more strength than a guy 350 lbs i wouldnt be able to man handle him. I have to take into account not only his strength but his weight as well.

And like somebody pointed out strength comes from the lower body as well as upper. So maybe they need ratings for lower and upper body strength.

But the have to use a system that adds weight into the equation!

[Tito78]

Quote: Originally Posted by FadeEmAll

Dude the STr they do at the combine is muscle endurance. Lifting 225 more times than someone else doesn't make you stronger it just means you have better muscle endurance.

Or shorter arms. Many LTs won't wow you with their bench press, because LTs tend to have longer arms.

[ImReady77]

Quote: Originally Posted by da ThRONe

Everybodies point about strength has merit I can say that. Like said the problem is less about strength and more about weight. For example if I weight 215 lbs and have more strength than a guy 350 lbs i wouldnt be able to man handle him. I have to take into account not only his strength but his weight as well. And like somebody pointed out strength comes from the lower body as well as upper. So maybe they need ratings for lower and upper body strength. But the have to use a system that adds weight into the equation!

Yeah we need lower body and upper body strength ratings to replace the strength rating. It would be sweet if upper body strength was a modifier for the fumble rating and the lower body strength rating was a modifier for break tackle rating for ball carriers.

[krc1130]

Quote: Originally Posted by g2thecore

No running back should be trucking or running over any DT PERIOD!.... Brandon Jacobs will not body slam Shaun Rogers or Marcus Stroud....so he should not be the same STR.

But in SB XLII(Giants-Pats) Ahmad Bradshaw moved Vince Wilfork with his freakin forearm! If thats not STR idk what is

[IndyColts2]

Quote: Originally Posted by adembroski

Just to throw it out there, Rashad Jennings, a RB, did 29 reps on the bench at the combine. That's better than 7 defensive linemen (Maurice Evans, Connor Barwin, Larry English, Paul Kruger, Everette Brown, Jarron Gilbert, and Lawrence Sidbury). In fact, only 11 offensive linemen (generally the strongest guys on the field) did better than Jennings (almost all of them were Centers).

Yea but like someone else said before, weightlifting isn't only about pure strength, it is about technique and endurance. Ok, you have a fat 300 lb DT who can bench 450lbs and a 200lb RB who can bench 300lbs max. Take both of them and make them rep 225lbs and sometimes, that running back will out rep the DT. He obviously isn't stronger, his muscles can just take the pain easier.

[seriousluboy83]

Quote: Originally Posted by Exonerated

Sorry to end your bashing of EA, but strength is relative to position. A 99 STR Running back is not as strong as a 99 STR D-Linemen.

Basically everyone in here is on point....arm length makes hella difference and so does muscle stamina....but point blank period AP,CP,ML,LT no hb should ever truck a DT no matter what....unless it's a crack-back and those rarely happen on DT's....and my last point who da f*ck was bashing EA....they must be blowing dat hole pretty good....lay-off my dude


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