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Old 04-01-2009, 09:09 PM   #9
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Re: Ian, without the vision cone, how will procedural awareness effect the QB ??

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so you're saying you like the way it looks when a QB whips around and throws a strike to a guy that he couldn't have possibly seen?
What I am saying was that both versions are stupid but I choose the one we have now over cone. It is just as stupid that the cone is about starign recivers down when you really play QB by reading the defense and making a choice based on the coverage. you move safties with your eyes, not stare down recivers like Rex Grossman. That and a glowing yellow cone looks stupid too.

I think that there needs to be a fix in the animation/accuracy part of the game to fix the spin and throw problems. You should throw a wild pass if you were running backwards and made an insta-spin throw. also all this off the back foot garbage needs to be teeeked. The animations are bad adn the passes are too accurate. Fix those first, then talk about the cone.
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Re: Ian, without the vision cone, how will procedural awareness effect the QB ??

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Agreed, stupidest addition to this franchise, and im not saying that because it was hard, more so just because it was stupid, maybe if we had superb line play it would be possible to get a pass off and look at 3 recievers in a play, but not in the previous maddens.
You didn't need forever to get the pass off, you just had to make the right reads. I had no problem with the cone and I don't see what was so stupid about it.

You say that's it's stupid not because it was hard, but because you couldn't make your reads in time? That sounds like it was too hard. It was not impossible to master and I had a ton of success with the Ravens, hardly a QB factory.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful or question your abilities, I'm just looking for clarification.

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Re: Ian, without the vision cone, how will procedural awareness effect the QB ??

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so you're saying you like the way it looks when a QB whips around and throws a strike to a guy that he couldn't have possibly seen?
Exactly, I was thinking the same.
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What I am saying was that both versions are stupid but I choose the one we have now over cone. It is just as stupid that the cone is about starign recivers down when you really play QB by reading the defense and making a choice based on the coverage. you move safties with your eyes, not stare down recivers like Rex Grossman. That and a glowing yellow cone looks stupid too.

I think that there needs to be a fix in the animation/accuracy part of the game to fix the spin and throw problems. You should throw a wild pass if you were running backwards and made an insta-spin throw. also all this off the back foot garbage needs to be teeeked. The animations are bad adn the passes are too accurate. Fix those first, then talk about the cone.
The QBs being too accurate has being sort of already addressed by Ian, hence we're talking about the cone. I'm not sure if those things will be adjusted to a level we're satisfied with and I agree that the spin throws and back foot throws are nonsense, but I don't see the harm in adding the cone IF you don't force it onto everyone.
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PLEASE pause that video at 50 seconds....look closely at where the QB is looking and then look at where the ball goes...and justify it....anyone.
Simple answer for you my man. Pause the video at 47, 48, and 49sec and tell me where he is looking? He turns and looks right at the guy. at 50 he jerks over. I am not bothered by a single frame animation twitch so much. I am bothered, like you are, about when you run facing AWAY from the LOS and press X and your QB spins around and throws a perfect pass becasue your QB has a high scramble ratting and I fear in M10 his high scramble/throwing distance accuracy ratting will allow this to continue.
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Re: Ian, without the vision cone, how will procedural awareness effect the QB ??

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGt7I...eature=channel

PLEASE pause that video at 50 seconds....look closely at where the QB is looking and then look at where the ball goes...and justify it....anyone.
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The QBs being too accurate has being sort of already addressed by Ian, hence we're talking about the cone. I'm not sure if those things will be adjusted to a level we're satisfied with and I agree that the spin throws and back foot throws are nonsense, but I don't see the harm in adding the cone IF you don't force it onto everyone.
And on this point I agree with you 100% I was more or less responding to the Jets fan. I agree why he is mad, but I am ask that he settles down for a moment and thinks this through. I belive nuckles is attacking this from the wrong angle and is asking for he wrong solution.
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Re: Ian, without the vision cone, how will procedural awareness effect the QB ??

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You didn't need forever to get the pass off, you just had to make the right reads. I had no problem with the cone and I don't see what was so stupid about it.

You say that's it's stupid not because it was hard, but because you couldn't make your reads in time? That sounds like it was too hard. It was not impossible to master and I had a ton of success with the Ravens, hardly a QB factory.

I'm not trying to be disrespectful or question your abilities, I'm just looking for clarification.
Im saying you were usually sacked if especially if you were trying to go for a 15+ yard pass.
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