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Old 04-21-2009, 06:46 AM   #65
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Re: Madden Player Ratings (09)

Here's how I think it should break down:

90-99 = elite, the best of the best, HOF potential type players (P. Manning, Ware, Fitzgerald, Asomugah, A. Peterson, P. Willis, Joe Thomas -- and that's probably it).

80-89 = Very good players, borderline superstars, and perennial pro bowlers, a cut above the rest (Maybe 30-50 players here, tops). Most teams will have 1-2 guys in this range.

70-79 = Solid starters and very good role players (excellent teams with a lot of depth will have a nice chunk of players rated in this range).

50-70 = Bench, 2-deep and borderline starters (The large majority of players on a 53 man roster will be made up of players with ratings in this range).

30-50 = Practice Squad and replacement-level types (players you can pick up at the league minimum from the free agency pool mid-season).

Lets take a random team for example:

Cowboys (offense):

QB Tony Romo (84)

HB Marion Barber (77)

WR Roy Williams (78)
WR Patrick Crayton (71)

TE Jason Witten (87)
C Andre Gurode (76)
LT Flozell Adams (73)

With the rest of the offense in the 50-70 range

Cowboys (defense):

DB Terrence Newman (82)
DB Ken Hamlin (74)

OLB Demarcus Ware (94)

DE Igor Olshansky (78)
DE Greg Ellis (75)

... with most other players in the 50-70 range on defense.

... I'm not a cowboy fan, so these numbers are applied in a "round about" way. The main point was trying to convey the macro-structure of the ratings.

With ratings this way, it forces one to gameplan against such a beast (Demarcus Ware). He would likely be a step above every single one of my blockers unless I had a Joe Thomas, or Michael Roos to help slow him down. Facing the Cowboys (knowing Ware is rushing my blind side), I'd have to call more 3 step drops, more run plays; keep my RB home on passing down to help block my blind side. I do this stuff now when I play Madden -- but I do it more to satisfy my imagination than to get any tangible benefit from it.

As it is right now, any player that has a reputation for being an everydown/good player is 80+ and pro bowlers are all 90+ .. and it makes the game feel vanilla, imo.

EDIT: Also, when drafting rookies, most players should come into camp in the 30-70 range. The very best picks can be automatic starters in the 70-80 range (but this is like less than 2% of the players in the draft), most players should bust completely, forever stuck in the 30-50 range, and rarely an "80" player might be found via the draft. Maybe once in a decade an Orlando Pace esque stud can come out as a 90 (but this rarely ever happens).

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Old 04-21-2009, 07:57 AM   #66
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Re: Madden Player Ratings (09)

A lot of you don't seem to understand that donny said there is 50 players of 95+ so we were attempting to figure out who the 50 might be in EA's eyes.

This isn't who i would rate 95+ but who i think EA would.

So the people giving 17 or 33 names is useless cos there will be 50, so come up with 50... quite simple really.
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A lot of you don't seem to understand that donny said there is 50 players of 95+ so we were attempting to figure out who the 50 might be in EA's eyes.

This isn't who i would rate 95+ but who i think EA would.

So the people giving 17 or 33 names is useless cos there will be 50, so come up with 50... quite simple really.
Those of us giving less names are really not that useless. We are trying to make our case that 50 is still too many. As donny said, nothing is set in stone yet, so if we can reduce that number by even a little then great.
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:30 AM   #68
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Those of us giving less names are really not that useless. We are trying to make our case that 50 is still too many. As donny said, nothing is set in stone yet, so if we can reduce that number by even a little then great.
Don't twist my words?!?!?

I didn't say you were useless i said naming less than 50 is useless...

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So the people giving 17 or 33 names is useless cos there will be 50, so come up with 50... quite simple really.
Sorry if i offended you but it's quite clear that wasn't my intention.

I think 50 is about right for 95+...

15ish (too lazy to actually count) positions
3 All pro players in each position (on average)

=45 + variance

= 50.

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That is sad so many players were "Elite"
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You really think no more than 32 players in the league are 95+ players? Just about every team in the league has a 95+ player and a lot of teams have multiples. 50-ish sounds about right to me.
I mean a 95 is relative. It isn't an absolute number. If Fitzgerald is a 92, and he is the HIGHEST rated WR in the game would you have an issue with that?

Positional ranking is what matters most
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There aren't many 95+ as you think.

On the Colts, there's only 1 Peyton Manning.

Titans - None (Do you really want to put a kicker here?)

Jaguars - None

Texans - A. Johnson, M. Williams

Pats - Brady, Moss

Dolphins - None

Jets- None (Revis if you were pushing it)

Bills - None (TO, but I doubt it)

Steelers - J. Harrison, T. Polamalu

Bengals - None (Chad is imo, but many would disagree)

Ravens - E. Reed, (R. Lewis is pushing it)

Browns - Yeah right lol the browns. Who do they have above 90 lol.

Chargers - Merriman, (Rivers close, not LT)

Raiders - Nnamdi Asomugha

Broncos - Nope

Chiefs - Gonzalez

Plus a few randoms there aren't even that many in the AFC.
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There aren't many 95+ as you think.

On the Colts, there's only 1 Peyton Manning.

Titans - None (Do you really want to put a kicker here?)

Jaguars - None

Texans - A. Johnson, M. Williams

Pats - Brady, Moss, SAMUEL, A THOMAS , (SEYMOUR, WILFORK maybe)

Dolphins - None

Jets- None (Revis if you were pushing it)

Bills - None (TO, but I doubt it)

Steelers - J. Harrison, T. Polamalu

Bengals - None (Chad is imo, but many would disagree)

Ravens - E. Reed, (R. Lewis is pushing it)

Browns - Yeah right lol the browns. Who do they have above 90 lol.

Chargers - Merriman, (Rivers close, not LT)

Raiders - Nnamdi Asomugha

Broncos - Nope , BAILEY

Chiefs - Gonzalez

Plus a few randoms there aren't even that many in the AFC.
see bold^^^^^
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