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Old 04-23-2009, 04:54 PM   #49
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Yes I have ran track and played organized football as well.

In fact, during those years in track, my friend was the starting RB for the football team and I was always talking trash on him saying how I was faster and that we should race.

When we ran on the track, I won. But he later challenged me to a race in pads, and he won that pretty convincingly because he runs differently in pads than without.

Obviously, i'm not saying pads and equipment don't slow reggie (or any player) down less than anyone else. That would be stupid.

My point is that reggie, during his 15+ years or whatever playing football in pads, has developed a feel for running in pads. IT'S DIFFERENT. Just like throwing, catching or kicking a football is a little different with pads on.

Do you remember the first time you stepped out of a locker room in full gear? It feels alien, and it takes time to get used to the little differences (like your head bounching because of the added weight). During your time running in pads, you develop and strengthen different muscles than if you trained without them.

No doubt that usain bolt is INSANELY fast, but the claim that he can throw on some pads one day and beat maybe the NFL's fastest player on the field is a stretch. I wonder if bolt himself would even be willing to make that claim.

There's a reason most people (quality scouts) don't put a ton of stock in 40 yard dash times because they understand the difference between track speed and football speed.

Jerry Rice was rumored to be clocked at a 4.7 forty but defenders who faced him claim he was the fastest guy on the field.

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No disrespect, but have you ran track or do you know anyone that is gifted with some serious speed? If so, then you should know that if someone has speed (fast), they are fast on a track, a field, on a street, on dirt, in grass, or wherever.

You argue that pads will slow him down. Yes, they will slow him down, just like they will slow down anyone who puts them on. Common sense should tell people that unless he is extraordinarily weak, then those pads will have the same affect that they have on any other speed guy with pads.

His running style and technique only enhances his speed. He still is fast regardless of how he decides to run. What you fail to realize is that speed is something that you really can't dispute. You either have it, or you don't. Guys that run at the combine also have different running styles during a sprint, then on the field. Does that make them much slower? I think you get my point.

To make sure that I understand you correctly, you are arguing that if he puts on pads, or has to carry a football, that would drop his speed to average (80 speed rating)? If he was a WR, he would barely wear any pads anyway. Pads do not weight as much as they did in the 80's and 90's.
There were quite a few NFL coaches on ESPN today talking about how there is a difference between '40 yard dash wonders' and good football players.

They compared Emmitt Smith and Jerry Rice (both ran 4.5 and 4.6s) to some players that ran 4.3 and 4.4 and talked about how Rice and Smith wouldn't get caught from behind as often as some of the 4.3 and 4.4 guys.

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Old 04-23-2009, 05:41 PM   #52
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Yes I have ran track and played organized football as well.

In fact, during those years in track, my friend was the starting RB for the football team and I was always talking trash on him saying how I was faster and that we should race.

When we ran on the track, I won. But he later challenged me to a race in pads, and he won that pretty convincingly because he runs differently in pads than without.

Obviously, i'm not saying pads and equipment don't slow reggie (or any player) down less than anyone else. That would be stupid.

My point is that reggie, during his 15+ years or whatever playing football in pads, has developed a feel for running in pads. IT'S DIFFERENT. Just like throwing, catching or kicking a football is a little different with pads on.

Do you remember the first time you stepped out of a locker room in full gear? It feels alien, and it takes time to get used to the little differences (like your head bounching because of the added weight). During your time running in pads, you develop and strengthen different muscles than if you trained without them.

No doubt that usain bolt is INSANELY fast, but the claim that he can throw on some pads one day and beat maybe the NFL's fastest player on the field is a stretch. I wonder if bolt himself would even be willing to make that claim.

There's a reason most people (quality scouts) don't put a ton of stock in 40 yard dash times because they understand the difference between track speed and football speed.

Jerry Rice was rumored to be clocked at a 4.7 forty but defenders who faced him claim he was the fastest guy on the field.

Yea I remember that "alien" feeling putting the pads on but I think the only alien feeling for Bolt would be the helmet. In highschool it felt alien but when I went to college and ran I trained sprinting with weight vests and leg weights on. And seeing as how Bolts a world class sprinter I'm pretty sure he's done the same. And yes there are some who are just naturally faster on the football field (like Jerry Rice). But lets be honest here... when comparing who can run faster between Bush and Johnson Johnson might run faster than bush on the field and Bush might run faster than Johnson on the track, but thats because they're around the same type of speed. Bolt is ON A WHOLE different level than those guys in terms of speed, that's why he's the fastest man in THE WORLD. Yes if you took a guy who ran around a 10.5 100m dash and put him in pads he probably will get beat by some of the fast guys who have played football for years, but a guy that runs under a 9.8... no way would some pads slow him down that much for someone like bush to beat him in the 100 yard dash. Now if you were talking about a 3 cone drill Bush (hell even some OL) would probably beat Bolt.
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And by Johnson I mean Chris Johnson (just for comparison)
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