when the demos come out for both games..

[Captain Obvious]

and if for some reason you still see some of the issues we see now. (some bad animations, pocket needs more work, bad running animation, etc... what are you gonna say.

"oh well its a demo it was made months ago. oh yea? like around this time right? history has shown that demos are barely any different from the retail game. how much more time do they have to actually fix these things? whats a priority and what isnt?

and its gonna be on pro, not all pro or madden. people say that the higher difficulties is where the game slows down and everything comes together. well i wanna play all pro on the demo. i dont care if youtta cut out the last 2 quarters, i wouldnt mind. id really like to see if there is a difference.

all im saying is that some of these issues are gonna be difficult to tackle before the game is finished, specially at this time compared to how much time they have left. specially when that guy who was showing jimmy the game said that they are putting the final touches on the game now. (in the interview)

some vids from ian would be lovely, and i hear we will be getting some next week, hopefully this puts minds at ease.

[Golden28]

Rental for me.

You can't see what franchise is like in a demo.

[roll2tide]

I'm not one of the "angry" people but I have been in the "fed up" category with NG Maddens so far and at this point I'm starting to come around to Ian and crew. With some of the additions that we already know about (gang tackling, fumble piles) and some that I'm sure we don't, I'd be willing to forgive other things that do not get improved this year. The real deal breaker for me is going to be what they offer in terms online play and online leagues/franchises for '10 and '11. I expect something this year and full online franchise integration for '11 or else I would probably just not buy another Madden until it was in.

[Captain Obvious]

honestly the only thing i care about are the route running animations, smarter DB AI on man and zone coverage, a life like pocket with ends flying around the tackles and blindsiding the qb for a sack fumble and better overall animations. either than that i dont give a **** lol