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Old 07-06-2009, 01:19 PM   #49
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It's not about standing by EA?

Why can't you people read the facts before posting? The NFL choose to sell the rights to one bidder, EA won.
The NFL choose to sell the rights to one bidder, EA won.
The NFL choose to sell the rights to one bidder, EA won.
Get it??
It's the NFL not EA that are responsible for it.

Now don't get me wrong, i dislike EA for their efforts with Madden in the last 5 years but you can't blame them for winning the rights to the NFL, the games they've produced- YES but not the sole rights.
Many believe that EA might have conspired to get this to happen though. While there's little to no hard evidence to support this idea, when you consider how it happened IMMEDIATELY after 2K5 went to $19.99 and seriously ate into Madden's fan base, it's not really that far fetched.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least because VC and the 2K franchise was on the verge of toppling Madden.
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Old 07-06-2009, 01:59 PM   #50
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Many believe that EA might have conspired to get this to happen though. While there's little to no hard evidence to support this idea, when you consider how it happened IMMEDIATELY after 2K5 went to $19.99 and seriously ate into Madden's fan base, it's not really that far fetched.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least because VC and the 2K franchise was on the verge of toppling Madden.
Exactly!
and EA has the track record of buying up the competition for years, this is not new. So this theory is not far fetched at all.
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Old 07-06-2009, 02:35 PM   #51
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Re: Madden class-action suit

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Many believe that EA might have conspired to get this to happen though. While there's little to no hard evidence to support this idea, when you consider how it happened IMMEDIATELY after 2K5 went to $19.99 and seriously ate into Madden's fan base, it's not really that far fetched.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least because VC and the 2K franchise was on the verge of toppling Madden.
There is, however, evidence to disprove this notion:

Madden NFL 2005 launched at $49.95 ($30 more than NFL 2k5). The game set a record for the biggest opening week sales numbers in series history to that point, despite the fact that the bargain priced NFL 2k5 had been released approx a month earlier.

http://ps2.gamespy.com/playstation-2.../540367p1.html

EA's initial response to 2K's $19.99 across the board pricing strategy was a buy 2, get 1 free offer. This went into effect on Sept. 27 and lasted until Nov.14, 2004.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6108303.html

In Nov 04 EA announced a price drop on Madden:

http://www.gamedaily.com/games/madde...rop/3122/7940/

Prior to the price drop, EA had sold more copies of Madden 05 in 12 weeks than NFL 2k5 did in 5 years. This despite having a price point that was more than double 2k5's.

In short, 2k5 did not effect Madden 05 sales in the least. Given this fact, what possible reason did EA have to think their bread and butter franchise was in trouble?
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The supreme court can fix this by revoking their exemption.

Problem solved.
It would be up to Congress to revoke their exemption unless the USSC approved cert on a case that brought the question of the NFLs antitrust exemption, which it is doubtful they would because the Court and Congress set precedent on this many years ago and are unlikely to tread on such a delicate issue that has basically been law since 1922.

There an old baseball franchise from a competing league challenged MLBs hold on the sport and players as legal because the sport was not "interstate commerce" and thus received an exemption (although there are many other considerations that I won't even broach here because they are far beyond my understanding). This rule has been upheld in every form by USSC since 1922 and even applied to the free agent system we have in all leagues. The only time it has been touched adversely was when USSC ruled that unions for major pro sports ARE subject to antitrust exemptions.

Eliminating this exemption would cause tremendous problems to the sports we love, and while it is inherently unfair on the face; without it, we'd be screwed from watching sports in many ways.
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There is, however, evidence to disprove this notion:

Madden NFL 2005 launched at $49.95 ($30 more than NFL 2k5). The game set a record for the biggest opening week sales numbers in series history to that point, despite the fact that the bargain priced NFL 2k5 had been released approx a month earlier.

http://ps2.gamespy.com/playstation-2.../540367p1.html

EA's initial response to 2K's $19.99 across the board pricing strategy was a buy 2, get 1 free offer. This went into effect on Sept. 27 and lasted until Nov.14, 2004.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6108303.html

In Nov 04 EA announced a price drop on Madden:

http://www.gamedaily.com/games/madde...rop/3122/7940/

Prior to the price drop, EA had sold more copies of Madden 05 in 12 weeks than NFL 2k5 did in 5 years. This despite having a price point that was more than double 2k5's.

In short, 2k5 did not effect Madden 05 sales in the least. Given this fact, what possible reason did EA have to think their bread and butter franchise was in trouble?
wooooooah... be careful there, i think you just stated facts rather than conspiracy theories- that won't go down well with these guys.
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Old 07-06-2009, 03:21 PM   #54
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Re: Madden class-action suit

Once again, EA is all evil, huh?

I don't mind the exclusive deal. Sure, it may be unfair to the competition, but it was a great business decision. Plus, it isn't EA's fault as much as it is EA Sports'. EA as a whole can produce really goo, quality gmes...
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wooooooah... be careful there, i think you just stated facts rather than conspiracy theories- that won't go down well with these guys.
nope, more like they'll ignore the post completely to continue with the rhetoric. Selective memory.
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There is, however, evidence to disprove this notion:

Madden NFL 2005 launched at $49.95 ($30 more than NFL 2k5). The game set a record for the biggest opening week sales numbers in series history to that point, despite the fact that the bargain priced NFL 2k5 had been released approx a month earlier.

http://ps2.gamespy.com/playstation-2.../540367p1.html

EA's initial response to 2K's $19.99 across the board pricing strategy was a buy 2, get 1 free offer. This went into effect on Sept. 27 and lasted until Nov.14, 2004.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6108303.html

In Nov 04 EA announced a price drop on Madden:

http://www.gamedaily.com/games/madde...rop/3122/7940/

Prior to the price drop, EA had sold more copies of Madden 05 in 12 weeks than NFL 2k5 did in 5 years. This despite having a price point that was more than double 2k5's.

In short, 2k5 did not effect Madden 05 sales in the least. Given this fact, what possible reason did EA have to think their bread and butter franchise was in trouble?
If EA was not threatened by 2k, then why did they even drop their price for Madden at all?
Come on dude, its pretty obvious. They saw the writing on the wall.

and you forgot to mention how they promptly raised the price back up the next year when 2k was out of the way.
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