QB Vision Cone - Bring it back (with a caveat)

[sois]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chitown1211

But qb's SHOULD be able to "see" two WR's that are standing 10 feet away from one another. Thats why the vision cone is redicuouls.

You are making a mountain out of a molehill. If you didn't get the cone right on the guy, there was still a chance the pass would be complete. It was more about rewarding proper cone placement.

It's like a headshot in CoD. Instant kill. Just because you don't have perfect headshot aim doesn't mean you can't get the kill otherwise.

Same with the cone, if you were close, you could still get a decent pass off. It wasn't as bad as you are making it out to be.

Secondly, how often are there routes run withing 10 feet of each other? That is not common at all.

Cone FTW.

[Chitown1211]

Quote: Originally Posted by sois

You are making a mountain out of a molehill. If you didn't get the cone right on the guy, there was still a chance the pass would be complete. It was more about rewarding proper cone placement. It's like a headshot in CoD. Instant kill. Just because you don't have perfect headshot aim doesn't mean you can't get the kill otherwise. Same with the cone, if you were close, you could still get a decent pass off. It wasn't as bad as you are making it out to be. Secondly, how often are there routes run withing 10 feet of each other? That is not common at all. Cone FTW.

Because nothing screams NFL like " proper cone placement ".


And don't take my "10 feet" scenerio so technically. There many routes where WR's are in the same general area. I was just pointing out out rediculous the "cone" was with its preciseness. You LITTERALLY would have to move the cone to highlight a guy who was standing 10 feet away from another WR. Are you honestly trying to say that most qb's int he NFL are so freaking blind they have to LITTERALLY move their head to see a guy standing 10 feet over from another guy!?!?!? Come on man......

I can go on for many paragraphs about how unrealistic a "cone" is, but whats the point? You obviuosly love it and theres nothing I can say that will change your mind. You will just continue to justify it.

I think its joke and does not represent the NFL in any way, shape, or form. I think my above suggestion would be 1000 times better.

[JerseySuave4]

Quote: Originally Posted by da ThRONe

Yes but Ian and Co. has already said that their goal is to make Madden as "Sim" as possible.

but why cant you make it an option for the people that do like it and use it. Not everyone is looking for a perfect sim game, they just want a fun game or whatever. Not saying im one of those people but if you give the option then it makes those happy that like it and those that dont like it have the option to not use it. Just make it turned off as the default though.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chitown1211

Obviously why they trashed it after one year......

The cone wasn't "trashed after one year."

Everyone here is discussing how they would like the option in the game. It doesn't hurt you in any way, shape or form to let those that would like to play with it on do so.

It's obvious there is a difference of opinion here, and I find it extremely ironic you're chastising individuals here for thinking their view is right when you're doing the same.

Again - OPTIONS. They never hurt anyone.

[Potatoes002]

I loved this feature. It kept michael vick from being unstopable online. It actually accounted awarness for something.

[reo]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

I loved the cone as well. Heck give it options: -Make the cone semi transparent as an option. The "flashlight" excuse is just that: an excuse -Should be off by default -Let users turn it on as they'd like; Make this an option in a custom, private game online Heck, I'd even like it to get a little more difficult and not allow you to see your receivers icon unless you're looking at him.

Only way the game should be played.

[sois]

Quote: Originally Posted by Chitown1211

Because nothing screams NFL like " proper cone placement ". And don't take my "10 feet" scenerio so technically. There many routes where WR's are in the same general area. I was just pointing out out rediculous the "cone" was with its preciseness. You LITTERALLY would have to move the cone to highlight a guy who was standing 10 feet away from another WR. Are you honestly trying to say that most qb's int he NFL are so freaking blind they have to LITTERALLY move their head to see a guy standing 10 feet over from another guy!?!?!? Come on man...... I can go on for many paragraphs about how unrealistic a "cone" is, but whats the point? You obviuosly love it and theres nothing I can say that will change your mind. You will just continue to justify it. I think its joke and does not represent the NFL in any way, shape, or form. I think my above suggestion would be 1000 times better.

It's a video game. Some things you will have to concede. Things like the unrealistic eye view, the icons over the receivers head, seeing the play art on the field, seeing the first down yellow line .... etc. are all not realistic.

I don't get why are are so hung up on the "realism" of the cone, but can ignore all of that other stuff.

It's a game. It can only be so realistic.

[Jimixiii]

Quote: Originally Posted by sois

Don't you see the problem? Since you are the user, your awareness is the QB's awareness. So essentially Tavaris Jackson and Peyton Manning have the same awareness due to human control. Cone was optimal and the best way to adjust for this. Having to move the cone manually was the most sim method of passing in video gaming football history, PERIOD.

i think having the players appropriate button icon flash above them at the perfect time to throw it would be way more beneficial to more players than cone vision could ever be to represent a QBs awareness. the cone almost makes it harder to pass in a video game than it is in real life.