Addressing Wildcat Restrictions

[KANE699]

You seriously don't see how its an exploit?

In madden anyone with a fast enough player will just run to the outside and just run up field with the ball ala Michael Vick 2004.

[TeamBuilder]

And how is that an exploit? The Eagles could do that in the NFL.

[teewee]

Quote: Originally Posted by TeamBuilder

And how is that an exploit? The Eagles could do that in the NFL.

the wildcat is already cheese without the sramble outside. alot of people do it every play cause its hard to stop.I rather they take it out than let it be the cheesers anthem. the only team that should have success with this play is miami and just because you use their playbook doesnt meen it should work you dont have the same personell to execute the plays. so you shouldnt be able to run up and down the field with the eagles runnin the wildcat.

[J.R. Locke]

The problem with this whole game is that they didn't do the fundementals therefore all this other stuff doesn't work properly or there are exploits because the defense has no options.

For instance if a team lines up in wildcat they almost always run to the strong side of the formation. If there were options to run defensive line stunts to that direction and then to role a safety up and have linebackers shot gaps....you stop the wildcat like they do in the NFL.

But Madden lacks this. So it is an exploit with no counter.

Great write up though. I wish every post was this well put together.

[KBLover]

Quote: Originally Posted by KANE699

You seriously don't see how its an exploit? In madden anyone with a fast enough player will just run to the outside and just run up field with the ball ala Michael Vick 2004.

Which is what I could do with Pat White...out of a standard shotgun formation. Just hit R2 (sprint) and Run like the wind.

So, why is that not "cheese" but doing it out of the Wildcat is "cheese"?

And of course the real problem is that the AI sucks against the Wildcat, not that the play or the execution of the play is unrealistic.

Because I contend the "fix" for the Wildcat scrambling is equally "cheesy" and unrealistic - but that's considered okay.

[KBLover]

Quote: Originally Posted by teewee

the wildcat is already cheese without the sramble outside. alot of people do it every play cause its hard to stop.I rather they take it out than let it be the cheesers anthem.

I'd rather them take it out than cripple it so it no longer works like it does in real life.

It wouldn't be "cheese" if EA would fix their AI.

Use the same AI for the shotgun and defending that if I took Pat White and scrambled out of the Gun with him. That's all the wildcat is, a weird shotgun formation.

In fact, with the hold X to not fake but really hand off, you could run it out of any Shotgun PA - just sometimes you hand it off and sometimes you fake it and then run with the QB.

[TeamBuilder]

Quote: Originally Posted by KBLover

I'd rather them take it out than cripple it so it no longer works like it does in real life. It wouldn't be "cheese" if EA would fix their AI. Use the same AI for the shotgun and defending that if I took Pat White and scrambled out of the Gun with him. That's all the wildcat is, a weird shotgun formation. In fact, with the hold X to not fake but really hand off, you could run it out of any Shotgun PA - just sometimes you hand it off and sometimes you fake it and then run with the QB.

You can do that? I know if you held "A" in past games it would actually do the hand off, but I thought they got rid of it this year. But it works with "X"?

[KBLover]

Quote: Originally Posted by TeamBuilder

You can do that? I know if you held "A" in past games it would actually do the hand off, but I thought they got rid of it this year. But it works with "X"?

Well, it's X on the PS3.

I believe it's whatever the "hike" button is. Hold it in when the play starts and when the QB goes to fake if the button is held in, he'll do the actual hand off.

I haven't tried it yet (absorbed into HC again...) but I read that on the boards here.