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View Poll Results: Do you believe in the madden curse?
Yes, every year something happens to the player on the cover 21 40.38%
No, it just a bunch of bs 20 38.46%
Maybe, let's see what happens to drew brees. 11 21.15%
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Old 05-09-2010, 06:11 AM   #9
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I didn't believe in the Madden curse until they Put Kevin Everett on the cover... oh wait.

I mean, until Tom Brady was on the cover of 09... oh wait.

The curse idea is so stupid.
The curse idea may be stupid but your Everett and Brady example doesn't disprove the existence of a curse.

That is akin to saying: smoking may cause cancer. Joe does not smoke but he has cancer. Therefore smoking does not cancer.

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Old 05-09-2010, 06:19 AM   #10
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The curse idea may be stupid but your Everett and Brady example doesn't disprove the existence of a curse.

That is akin to saying: smoking may cause cancer. Joe does not smoke but he has cancer. Therefore smoking does not cancer.
The curse is a case of post hoc ergo propter hoc. A player was hurt or had a bad season, that player was on the cover of Madden, therefore Madden caused the problems.

I was attempting to use absurd as a means of exposing the absurd.
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Old 05-09-2010, 07:30 AM   #11
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The curse is a case of post hoc ergo propter hoc. A player was hurt or had a bad season, that player was on the cover of Madden, therefore Madden caused the problems.

I was attempting to use absurd as a means of exposing the absurd.
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  • Daunte Culpepper led the Minnesota Vikings to the playoffs in 2000, but after appearing on the Madden 2002 cover, he threw 23 interceptions as the Vikings slumped to a 5-11 record. He also broke the record for most fumbles in a single season. While his career looked to be back on track in 2004 with a career season, he blew out both knees in 2005 and 2006 and never resembled the player he was at the start of the decade.
  • Marshall Faulk appeared on the 2003 cover, and his career (and the success of the St. Louis Rams) severely declined afterwards. He did not register another 1,000 yard rushing season and his yards per carry average dropped from a consistent 5.4 over the previous three years to 4.5 in 2002 and 4.0 in 2003 and 2004. He started 21 out of a possible 32 games from 2002-2003 as knee injuries got the better of him. He underwent reconstructive knee surgery in 2005 and retired that same year.
  • Ray Lewis, 2005 cover athlete and middle linebacker for the Baltimore Ravens, had his season cut short in week 15 with a wrist injury. It was also Lewis' first season without an interception.
  • In 2006, Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb tore the anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) and meniscus in his right knee while jumping out of bounds in a game versus the Tennessee Titans, ending his season. McNabb also suffered a sports hernia in the first game of the season.
  • Running back Shaun Alexander, then the league’s reigning Most Valuable Player, was featured on the cover of Madden NFL 2007, and sustained a foot injury that caused him to miss six starts.[25] As a result, Alexander’s rushing statistics were substantially less than those from the previous season, and he never returned to true form.[25] Alexander himself has asked, “Do you want to be hurt and on the cover, or just hurt?"[26]
  • Madden NFL 2008's cover featured Vince Young, the starting quarterback of the Tennessee Titans. Young missed 1 game of 2007 season. On September 7, 2008 Vince Young sustained a knee injury which put him out of the game. He was relieved by backup quarterback Kerry Collins,[27] who remained the starter for the rest of the season (Young eventually regained the starting job on October 29, 2009).[28] When Young appeared on Jimmy Kimmel Live to officially announce that he would appear on the cover of Madden NFL 2008, he derided allegations of becoming the curse’s next victim, and stated, “I've done prayed about it and we're gonna go home and try to get to the playoffs and try to get to the Super Bowl. We'll see what happens."[29][30]
  • Brett Favre appeared on the cover of Madden NFL 2009, and did not miss any games. However, he later admitted to suffering a torn biceps injury, which Favre says may have affected his gameplay during the final five games of his first and last season with the New York Jets, who missed the playoffs at 9-7 after starting the season 8-3.[31] Favre threw 2 touchdowns and 9 interceptions in the last 5 games of the season.
  • On September 10, 2009, Strong Safety Troy Polamalu of the Pittsburgh Steelers, who was featured along with Larry Fitzgerald, wide receiver for the Arizona Cardinals, on the cover of Madden NFL 10, sprained his MCL in the first half of the season opener and missed the next four games. After returning, Polamalu played in three more games before injuring his posterior cruciate ligament on November 14, 2009 against Cincinnati, and missed more games as a result. Larry Fitzgerald, on the other hand, started all 16 regular season games for the Cardinals. But later on had missed out in the playoffs due to an injury in his ribs, leaving Steve Smith of the New York Giants, to take his spot in the 2010 Pro Bowl. He recorded 97 receptions (third-most of his NFL career), 1,092 yards (fourth-most), and a career-high 13 touchdowns. [32]
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I dunno man....I'm not superstitious and I don't really believe in curses. But every single player who's graced the cover of Madden since they first started using actual players have had SOMETHING happen. It's it a pure coincidence that for 9 straight years that "bad season" or injury happened when the player was on the cover?

If it's foolish to link the Madden cover with injuries and misfortune because players who aren't on the cover also get injured and have misfortune....where's are the good, successful, seasons for players who are on the cover?

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Old 05-09-2010, 07:48 AM   #12
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And let's not forget about Eddie George on the cover of Madden 2001 and that bobbled pass that led to the pick-6 in the divisional round of the playoffs.

I think some people associate the "curse" exclusively with injuries. But come on....a bobbled pass that leads to a pick-6 that costs your team a trip to the Conference Championship? And you happen to be on the cover of Madden?

I understand Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc says you can't simply say "because one thing followed another, the first incident must have caused it." But does that logic apply for 9 straight years? At what point does a result after an action become a pattern? Year 10? How about 11?

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Old 05-09-2010, 08:13 AM   #13
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I believe in Brett Favre.

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Old 05-09-2010, 02:37 PM   #14
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How many players go a whole season that doesn't have a bad play, injury of some sort, or start to show signs of age? Not many. Pick any player in the nfl and you can find something wrong with them whether it be bad play or injury. No player has had a perfect season.
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Old 05-09-2010, 04:04 PM   #15
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Maybe not a curse but an interesting correlation. Seems to happen year in and year out.
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Madden curse, no. Superman curse, YES!
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