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Iron Head · 05-16-2010, 02:15 PM

Will it ever be possible to code for 11 players acting independently? For example, the DL tends to rush the passer as one unit on most plays. You don't see each DL trying to beat the OL on their way to the passer. consequently you have lots of plays where the QB passes with no pass rush in his face (which is totally unrealistic).

How many times is the QB forced to dump the ball off on third down in order to avoid a sack? How many times does the pass rush come up the middle forcing a bad throw? It seems like these scenarios can't be recreated in a video game because each DL can't be created to act as an individual. Does this make sense? I hope my question makes sense because it is difficult to describe.

I have pretty much given up on buying football video games now because it doesn't seem like the line play battles can be recreated accurately. Does anyone else get that feeling? Any thoughts are appreciated.

duxrcool048 · 05-16-2010, 04:59 PM

I don't think so at all. Nothing is impossible. It would definitely add the highest degree of realism to the game, since everything is independently controlled, not Computer AI. I defintely think it's possible given the technology we have, but, "It's all about the Benjamins baby" for EA. They just want our money.

Soodmeg · 05-16-2010, 05:10 PM

In sports video games? Yes just play Fifa 10. All 11 players are pretty much doing there own thing.

In madden? Hell no.

When I see that a WR still has no idea he is at the sideline I have no hope at all that they can do this.

Boregard · 05-16-2010, 05:35 PM

The fact that we don't already have this is because of failings of the EA/Tiburon developers and the execs that influence what they can do. It is not that the hardware can't handle it.

They need an infusion of new talent, and a shake up at the top as far as the "suits" are concerned. The excuse that the "engine" won't allow it is like that top 40 hit on the radio - way overplayed!

deaduck · 05-16-2010, 05:45 PM

I just don't think for most people realistic line play factors very high on a priority list. Even though I played lineman when I played, it barely effects me.

Exonerated · 05-16-2010, 10:04 PM

I don't understand the question.

Madden already has 11 'independent' players.

05-16-2010, 02:15 PM	#1
Iron Head Rookie OVR: 1 Join Date: Jan 2010	Will it ever be possible to have 11 independent players? Will it ever be possible to code for 11 players acting independently? For example, the DL tends to rush the passer as one unit on most plays. You don't see each DL trying to beat the OL on their way to the passer. consequently you have lots of plays where the QB passes with no pass rush in his face (which is totally unrealistic). How many times is the QB forced to dump the ball off on third down in order to avoid a sack? How many times does the pass rush come up the middle forcing a bad throw? It seems like these scenarios can't be recreated in a video game because each DL can't be created to act as an individual. Does this make sense? I hope my question makes sense because it is difficult to describe. I have pretty much given up on buying football video games now because it doesn't seem like the line play battles can be recreated accurately. Does anyone else get that feeling? Any thoughts are appreciated.

05-16-2010, 04:59 PM	#2
duxrcool048 Rookie OVR: 1 Join Date: May 2009 Location: CA	Re: Will it ever be possible to have 11 independent players? I don't think so at all. Nothing is impossible. It would definitely add the highest degree of realism to the game, since everything is independently controlled, not Computer AI. I defintely think it's possible given the technology we have, but, "It's all about the Benjamins baby" for EA. They just want our money.

05-16-2010, 05:10 PM	#3
Soodmeg Banned OVR: 3 Join Date: Dec 2007	Re: Will it ever be possible to have 11 independent players? In sports video games? Yes just play Fifa 10. All 11 players are pretty much doing there own thing. In madden? Hell no. When I see that a WR still has no idea he is at the sideline I have no hope at all that they can do this.

05-16-2010, 05:35 PM	#4
Boregard Banned OVR: 13 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: WI Blog Entries: 1	Re: Will it ever be possible to have 11 independent players? The fact that we don't already have this is because of failings of the EA/Tiburon developers and the execs that influence what they can do. It is not that the hardware can't handle it. They need an infusion of new talent, and a shake up at the top as far as the "suits" are concerned. The excuse that the "engine" won't allow it is like that top 40 hit on the radio - way overplayed!

05-16-2010, 05:45 PM	#5
deaduck MVP OVR: 42 Join Date: Mar 2009 Blog Entries: 14	Re: Will it ever be possible to have 11 independent players? I just don't think for most people realistic line play factors very high on a priority list. Even though I played lineman when I played, it barely effects me.

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05-16-2010, 10:04 PM	#6
Exonerated All Star OVR: 33 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia	Re: Will it ever be possible to have 11 independent players? I don't understand the question. Madden already has 11 'independent' players.

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