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Old 06-29-2010, 09:19 AM   #9
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Re: Constructive Criticism (READ NOW, Instant bans Now In Effect)

I understand why this has been put in to effect. My only question is, will people who constantly go after the posters who criticize constructively be monitored too? I am someone who ALWAYS makes well thought out lists of what I am seeing wrong with/like about games and I never slam the devs or the company (I have actually tried to contact the devs and give them my lists in the past). Last year for NCAA Football 10 there were some guys in the impressions thread that literally quoted every constructively criticizing post that brought up issues with the game and attempted to discredit people and start mini-flame wars.

I remember that I complimented the game on some things, but I was the first person to bring up that fatigue was broken (especially for Defensive players) and yet the same guys kept coming in the thread, quoting every one of mine (and others posts) and accusing us of everything under the sun. Well it tuns out that fatigue WAS broken and that I was right. Comments like: "I have never once seen that happen in the game, sometimes I think people just try to make up issues because they don't like EA or don't know how to play a football game.....oh well, enjoy your game" is the type of thing (and worse) that has been seen in that and other threads. These kind of comments help no one and only serve as the first salvo in a nice big flame war.

I don't see anything wrong with people quoting posts and offering help to, or constructively disagreeing with, those that may be seeing things/having problems with a game, but there were definitely some guys last year that just sat in threads and trolled every single post that had anything negative to say about NCAA Football 10/Madden 10.
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Old 06-29-2010, 09:23 AM   #10
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Comments like: "I have never once seen that happen in the game, sometimes I think people just try to make up issues because they don't like EA or don't know how to play a football game.....oh well, enjoy your game" is the type of thing (and worse) that has been seen in that and other threads. These kind of comments help no one and only serve as the first salvo in a nice big flame war.
I agree with this alot.
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Does this go for Blogs as well or simply forum behavior? This is a serious question, nothing sarcastic. I feel like this will be a major 'venting' year for a lot of disappointed people and they may need somewhere to type all of their 4-letter complaints.

Thanks.

This is what I don't get.....
No games have been released yet we are gearing up for a "venting year"?

Also the whole "venting" thing I don't get either. We are talking about VIDEO GAMES and no one is forced to buy them. There's plenty of things more worthy of venting than a video game hobby. Post your thoughts on what you believe would make the game better and what you do like. However to go into a vent (and vent is way to subdued a word for what has been the norm these days) about a GAME just boggles my mind.

Here's to the hope everyone keeps their heads and we has some great conversations.
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Old 06-29-2010, 09:45 AM   #12
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I understand why this has been put in to effect. My only question is, will people who constantly go after the posters who criticize constructively be monitored too? I am someone who ALWAYS makes well thought out lists of what I am seeing wrong with/like about games and I never slam the devs or the company (I have actually tried to contact the devs and give them my lists in the past). Last year for NCAA Football 10 there were some guys in the impressions thread that literally quoted every constructively criticizing post that brought up issues with the game and attempted to discredit people and start mini-flame wars.

I remember that I complimented the game on some things, but I was the first person to bring up that fatigue was broken (especially for Defensive players) and yet the same guys kept coming in the thread, quoting every one of mine (and others posts) and accusing us of everything under the sun. Well it tuns out that fatigue WAS broken and that I was right. Comments like: "I have never once seen that happen in the game, sometimes I think people just try to make up issues because they don't like EA or don't know how to play a football game.....oh well, enjoy your game" is the type of thing (and worse) that has been seen in that and other threads. These kind of comments help no one and only serve as the first salvo in a nice big flame war.

I don't see anything wrong with people quoting posts and offering help to, or constructively disagreeing with, those that may be seeing things/having problems with a game, but there were definitely some guys last year that just sat in threads and trolled every single post that had anything negative to say about NCAA Football 10/Madden 10.
I would think it's going to work both ways....
And really in this day and age (and the fact you can upload replays etc...) postintg example , good and bad, will help.

But anyways I would think trolling both ways will be enforced.
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It's going to work in every which way.

Of course there are always going to be the few that are personally hurt by every comment, no matter how light they are. But the constant bashing and mindless posting is not going to be tolerated anymore.

Games are meant to be fun, and we're here to discuss them and make our recreational activity even better through discussion, not through hatred and senseless arguing.
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This is what I don't get.....
No games have been released yet we are gearing up for a "venting year"?

Also the whole "venting" thing I don't get either. We are talking about VIDEO GAMES and no one is forced to buy them. There's plenty of things more worthy of venting than a video game hobby. Post your thoughts on what you believe would make the game better and what you do like. However to go into a vent (and vent is way to subdued a word for what has been the norm these days) about a GAME just boggles my mind.

Here's to the hope everyone keeps their heads and we has some great conversations.
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I do believe in constructive criticism, and I think this will be a very nice addition. It will definitely bring good conversation back to OS.
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