Madden NFL 11 Full Player Ratings: Pittsburgh Steelers and Cincinnati Bengals

[SubZero97]

I dont have the stats, but his completion rating is high, and it wasnt from dink and donk completions.

The guy biggest flaw is he likes to go deep and holds the ball too long, Ben doesnt check down often.

The guy had a deep ball last year until the update and they took it away.

He went deep because our guys got open alot, and we passed alot.

Only RIvers has a higher yards per pass. He isnt going short. hes airing it out, the long completions allows his average to be high.

I watch every game, he doesnt throw short very ofter. Even Heath Miller caught deep passes/

Whatever his reason, hes a pro bowler and should be ahead of the guys I listed.

Quote: Originally Posted by Maelstrom-XIII

Subzero... Do you have stats on how many times each QB went deep, and how many times they completed said deep balls? Because for Deep Accuracy, that's really all that matters...remember, Pittsburgh had to air it out a lot last year, while Baltimore did quite a few more screens and check downs to Ray Rice...so that may be the reason for some of the disparities...but if you can find those stats, I'd be interested to see if Ben really was more accurate on the deep ball, or whether he just had to throw it deep more often to bail the team out with their sucktacular defensive play last year... Oh, and I foresee the Steelers struggling early, but picking it up and making the playoffs.

[SubZero97]

One arument could bbe because Holmes is gone.

But they decreased Ben midway through the season last year in the update.

So bias came early.

I personally think they lower certain areas to keep the overall at bay. Ben has a deep ball at least at an 83 to 85.

Im not asking for him to be a 90 deep ball.

Quote: Originally Posted by LBzrule

If the ratings are all based on last year then you are right. But I do believe there is some projection of the current season involved which brings in subjective factors of the person doing the ratings.

[johnny sack]

Quote: Originally Posted by SubZero97

Ive made my argument and posted my evidence. Constructive Criticism. Would be even higher completion is Sweed held onto all those wide open deep passes he dropped in the end zone. Top 3 WRS. Balti had 27 Deep balls Pitt had 50 Deep balls.

Awesome posting dude. Its obvious that Donny and EA are "punishing" Ben for his off of the field actions, which IMO is wrong. The stats you laid out for all to see proves his ratings on M11 are lame.

Maybe theY feel as though they needed to even the ratings out considering the Steelers missed the playoffs last year. If thats truly the case ...and i'm not being biased in the least here, i wouldve lowered James Harrison and Max Starks a couple of notches, even Farrior at an 88 seems a bit too high imo (Harrison really faded down the stretch last year) and upped Ben to maybe a 90-92. Im truly disappointed with Ben rated an 88. Its almost insulting.

Anyways, great post and you know as well as i do that the haters will hate.

[canes21]

How is an 88 insulting. Thats a good rating for a good player. Ben is definitely not an elite player or a great great player. I think he is a good QB that can run an offense pretty good, but I don't think he is a great player.

[johnny sack]

Quote: Originally Posted by canes21

How is an 88 insulting. Thats a good rating for a good player. Ben is definitely not an elite player or a great great player. I think he is a good QB that can run an offense pretty good, but I don't think he is a great player.

Yeah true. That winning SB drive and pass magically happened on its own.

And im not going to get into an arguement as to whether or not he's elite. I'll allow his stats and SB trophies speak for themselves

[SubZero97]

Ill take that.

But the guy throws deep, look at his stats.

Quote: Originally Posted by canes21

How is an 88 insulting. Thats a good rating for a good player. Ben is definitely not an elite player or a great great player. I think he is a good QB that can run an offense pretty good, but I don't think he is a great player.

[Maelstrom-XIII]

Quote: Originally Posted by johnny sack

Yeah true. That winning SB drive and pass magically happened on its own. And im not going to get into an arguement as to whether or not he's elite. I'll allow his stats and SB trophies speak for themselves

If game winning drives are the barometer for elite-ness, then surely Eli Manning is elite as well, no?

[Docile Joint]

Ben is good, not great. But that drive he pulled off in superbowl 43 was pretty dang amazing.