#1 WR isn't on the field

[PGaither84]

Quote: Originally Posted by kpkpkp

In previous Madden's players would hold out and demand a trade if they were unhappy with their team or their contract. That feature was removed, but the backround programming logic is still there.

We are likely talking semantics here, but yeah, a lot of the old franchise features are in the game but "turned off" and have no visual graphic interface. For example, Player Roles are in the game, and when you progress your franchise into the offseason, you can see the computer process this. The thing is, there are no graphics for player roles, all of the roles abilities are "set to zero" so they have no effect on he game and so forth. My understanding is the same thing is true for player moral and hold outs.

P.S. This is just my opinion, but I honestly think EA lied to us when they said they built next gen Madden from the ground up. I think they did import last gen madden and the messed it all up while under David Ortiz.

[Darck]

Quote: Originally Posted by RavensFan2k3

Try resigning him to a new contract...if that doesnt work, then you'll have to cut him and resign him unfortunately.

I cut him and resigned him and he's back now, so this is what you need to do for anyone else that has this problem. Thanks again.

[PhillyJim76]

PGaither, it is a shame there is no one we can ask to find out if your theory is true. No one.

[youALREADYknow]

Quote: Originally Posted by PGaither84

P.S. This is just my opinion, but I honestly think EA lied to us when they said they built next gen Madden from the ground up. I think they did import last gen madden and the messed it all up while under David Ortiz.

Of course they didn't build from the ground up. Maybe some of the core 3D engines and/or the gameplay engine itself, but there isn't a company in the world that would rebuild a working product from scratch.

This game, especially the Franchise mode, seems to have had the same "guts" for an eternity.

[RavensFan2k3]

Quote: Originally Posted by Darck

Tried signing him to a new contract and it didn't work. I might try cutting him and resigning him but I'm just gonna wait him out. I've got plenty of WR talent so maybe after a good season he'll wanna play again. Thanks guys!

Quote: Originally Posted by Darck

I cut him and resigned him and he's back now, so this is what you need to do for anyone else that has this problem. Thanks again.

Damn, I wanted to know if not doing anything and then waiting till next season will make him come back.

[kpkpkp]

Quote: Originally Posted by PGaither84

We are likely talking semantics here, but yeah, a lot of the old franchise features are in the game but "turned off" and have no visual graphic interface. For example, Player Roles are in the game, and when you progress your franchise into the offseason, you can see the computer process this. The thing is, there are no graphics for player roles, all of the roles abilities are "set to zero" so they have no effect on he game and so forth. My understanding is the same thing is true for player moral and hold outs. P.S. This is just my opinion, but I honestly think EA lied to us when they said they built next gen Madden from the ground up. I think they did import last gen madden and the messed it all up while under David Ortiz.

Yup, this just explains in greater detail what I was saying above. And you're totally correct.

Player roles, and holdouts are in there, even though they were "removed." So even though there is no graphic representing what happened to OP's Mike Williams, the AI logic is still programmed to make Williams behave that way.

What happened here, is Mike Williams was holding out since he was either unhappy playing for a low-ranked team, or he was unhappy with his contract.

Thats is why OP cutting and signing him got him on the field, it gave Mike Williams a new contract. It gave Mike Williams what he wanted.

Its very frustrating that this "feature" was removed, but the after effects are still in the game... leaving you sometimes confused as to why the hell your star player is not on the field.


But as far as this bug goes... or the broken IR system... I have just given up on such things being fixed. They just cant/wont/dont fix it for some reason. Whether they dont know, or there are limitations with memory on the disc or in their programming.... *shrugs* it is what it is.

This exact thing happened in my Lions franchise. I went 7-9 in the 2012 season, and next year Mario Manningham (who I signed as a FA) was never on the field even though he was #1 on my depth chart. He was "holding out" for a trade or new contract... and this "bug" left me wondering why... untill I reasearched it and found out why. So I traded Manningham.



Dont get me wrong! I think the holdout thing is kinda cool... I just wish it was either programmed correctly, or completely removed correctly.

Quote: Originally Posted by RavensFan2k3

Damn, I wanted to know if not doing anything and then waiting till next season will make him come back.

Possibly, if OP's team had a better winning record then he likely would have started playing. Regardless though, Williams was simply holding out for a trade or new contract. It's just that there was no graphic in the game alluding to that.

[RavensFan2k3]

Quote: Originally Posted by kpkpkp

Possibly, if OP's team had a better winning record then he likely would have started playing. Regardless though, Williams was simply holding out for a trade or new contract. It's just that there was no graphic in the game alluding to that.

Yeah, he gave him a new contract and it didn't work.

[Botkin21]

Same thing happened to me last night with Crabtree and the 49ers.

I had no idea why he wasnt playing. I was simming and noticed it.

It really sucks that there is no visual way of knowing. In years past the big read sign that read "HOLD OUT" would read by the players face. This year, NONE.