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Old 02-08-2011, 01:57 PM   #73
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Re: IGN: You Can't Compete with Madden... EA and the NFL Won't Let You

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This article is written with an obvious bias against EA. I agree with the premise that the lack of competition hurts the consumer, but there were plenty of changes between Madden 10 and Madden 11 that are completely ignored by this article. Madden Ultimate Team is completely ignored, for example, not to mention the addition of online leagues, online co-op, a plethora of presentation features, and significant work to the core game on-the-field.

Also, to say that franchise mode was "completely untouched" is inaccurate; there were improvements to things like the stat simulation engine and touch-ups here and there. The point stands that they should have done more, but to say they didn't touch it at all is simply wrong.
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I'm not one of those people who foolishly says, "Madden never changes." It definitely does. Madden NFL 11 is a different experience than Madden NFL 10. That said, I have little doubt the Madden series would be considerably better if developer Tiburon had a competitor threatening it each year.
Seems like you skipped over this part.
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Old 02-08-2011, 02:14 PM   #74
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At any rate, it's odd for the only NFL option available to not have a major increase in sales until the NFL season is almost over. Something is wrong with that picture.
True, and I believe EA is well aware of this. EA CEO John Riccitiello acknowledged last year that "the way you unseat a market leader is you make a better game a couple of times in a row", but if there is no competition to upset the market leader, you end up in a situation like the one we are in now, where sales are dropping/fluctuating even without a competitor.
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It's very easy for people to use Ortiz as a scapegoat, but this is neither fair, nor accurate. Madden's problems pre-date Ortiz' appointment by a couple of decades. The game is not all that different. I'm still amazed that people still cling to the Ortiz is gone there's only good times ahead, mantra.

The team is the same. It's been the same forever. Game development is a creative field. Creative people are motivated by the creative process, and the end result. Not to say that money isn't a factor, but it is secondary to the actual work. These aren't blue collar people. They haven't been dogging it all this time and are, all of a sudden, going to turn it on. It's been on as much as it is ever going to be, for the last decade.

I'm sorry. It's time people stop deluding themselves. Either the team has reached it's development limits, or the culture that is in place, isn't designed to take advantage of their untapped creative talents. Either way, the story will end the same. You know how it ends, even if you don't want to admit it to yourself.

Most people won't agree with this, and that's fine. It's fine to have faith, even if I have none, but it just irks me a little when people use Ortiz' ouster as a beacon for a bright future, when it's obvious they haven't paid much attention to the past. If they did, they'd remember that the game that they are playing today, was designed to play like the game they played 10yrs ago, and unfortunately, for the most part, they've succeeded.
Very good points, especially about the creativity.
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LOL... this was funny.

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Kinda off-topic, but the way video games are scored numerically by Metacritic and other media outlets compared to other forms of media (music, movies, DVDs) is completely screwed up. I can't remember a video game that scored below 70.

There are plenty that score below 7. A lot of them are on PSP, but that's besides the point lol.
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Re: IGN: You Can't Compete with Madden... EA and the NFL Won't Let You

This article was on point! Everything I,my friends,and alot of the Madden community have been saying for years was in this article. I know people bash EA alot,but some of it is well warranted. The core modes of the game that have been a staple of Madden for yrs remain untouched and unplayable(offline franchise,superstar mode) and even online franchise is a bare bones mode. I don't care much for Ultimate team or team play,and I'm sure there are lots of guys who agree. If EA is going to keep its hold of the exclusive license,it needs to go all out to make Madden the best NFL game,seeing how its the ONLY NFL game.
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I thought Disney put the most money up for the license? Yes...Disney.
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I thought Disney put the most money up for the license? Yes...Disney.
yep,disney was the second competitor to EA,not 2K.
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