Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

[kingkilla56]

Hillis isnt a pedestrian player but he isnt top echelon out here. And dont get mad at Hillis people...you voted him this far (or the crazed browns/arkansas fans did). If EA went with Hillis on their own accord, I would say he Vince Young'd himself onto the cover...but thats not the case.

EA messed this one up. The player representatives from many teams were questionable...just look at the two final teams...

[OSUFan_88]

The only reason Hillis isn't considered elite is because he played on a team that sucked and had no QB until the end of the season.

His stats and ability are more than enough to be considered elite.

[kehlis]

Quote: Originally Posted by kingkilla56

Hillis isnt a pedestrian player but he isnt top echelon out here. And dont get mad at Hillis people...you voted him this far (or the crazed browns/arkansas fans did). If EA went with Hillis on their own accord, I would say he Vince Young'd himself onto the cover...but thats not the case. EA messed this one up. The player representatives from many teams were questionable...just look at the two final teams...

This is a very arbitrary statement.

Maybe not to you. What makes a player top echelon?

[kingkilla56]

Quote: Originally Posted by OSUFan_88

The only reason Hillis isn't considered elite is because he played on a team that sucked and had no QB until the end of the season. His stats and ability are more than enough to be considered elite.

I disagree. His stats dont support him being elite.

[mestevo]

Quote: Originally Posted by kingkilla56

I still dont understand why it's illegal. From a legal standpoint. If EA doesnt honor the results of the "contest" who will sue? Nobody is exactly losing money here except maybe the contestants? I dont get it. (not very familiar with this side of the law in all honesty)

State law related to contests are not typically a simple affair. As a result that's why your routinely see states or Canadian provinces excluded in the terms. In the case of this one "Residents of Florida, New York and Quebec are not eligible". Florida I think has a process where the state has to vet and approve the contest... a process few companies/contests bother to take the time to do so instead those residents are excluded.

Adembroski confirmed it would not be legal for them to change the results of the bracket contest... that doesn't mean they couldn't turn around and put Vick on the 360 and Hillis on the PS3 cover or something (or make all of the participants' covers available for download if licensed appropriately).

From a feature and promotional standpoint, I could make a pretty good case that Hillis and the Browns would make good poster children for franchise mode. Superstar mode too.

[JerseySuave4]

Quote: Originally Posted by shigogouhou

Good for Hillis, but I feel bad for him. Unlike all the other cover athletes, he's going to be surrounded by questions; "Did he win just because Cleveland stuffed the ballot? Did he win because EA doctored it to keep Vick from repeating as cover boy? Did he win because supporters of the ones EA would've chosen all stuffed the ballots against to prevent the Curse from striking their team?"

these questions won't be asked because its the cover. Seriously, the cover of a video game. This is not a big deal. The only question people should be asking is whether or not this guy is a 1 year wonder or will he have long term success.

Quote: Originally Posted by OSUFan_88

The only reason Hillis isn't considered elite is because he played on a team that sucked and had no QB until the end of the season. His stats and ability are more than enough to be considered elite.

slow down before you call him elite. The guy has had 1 good year. He was 11th in rushing yards, tied 6th for tds, but also led the league in fumbles so his stats aren't really enough to consider him elite.

[kingkilla56]

Quote: Originally Posted by kehlis

This is a very arbitrary statement. Maybe not to you. What makes a player top echelon?

Well, disregarding team specific handicaps or advantages,
having 10 players ahead of you in rushing in the league,
10 players (with a min 1,000yrds) with a higher YPC than you,
20 players with more 20+ yard rushes than you,
Having a season long of 48 yrds,
Having 8 players with the same or more tds than you,
14 players with a higher ypg than you (73.6),
lead the league in fumbles,
10 players with more 1st down runs,

doesnt make elite in my book. You gotta be top 5 in something other than fumbles. Maybe its just me

[PVarck31]

I don't think he is elite (yet), but I certainly don't think he is pedestrian.