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Old 06-18-2011, 07:17 PM   #1
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Half empty stadiums....

So I am not sure why there are still half empty stadiums during rain or snow games, you never see stadiums that empty even if it's bad weather. I saw a video where Lambaeu Field was half empty, they sell out every game. Anyways I know this is a small detail but it is pretty annoying to see.
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Old 06-18-2011, 07:31 PM   #2
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Re: Half empty stadiums....

I like that they exist in the game.

You have a point with the weather attendance not being 100% realistic, but I'm willing to suspend disbelief for that - I know that they're using it as a device to reinforce the IDEA that it's a horrible day to be outside. With the inclusion of Uniform & Field Degradation, that's cool.

The one thing I really DO want from half-empty stadiums is the scenario that used to exist years ago in previous versions of Madden - your team is losing and your fans start to leave, with a little commentary line to reinforce it.

Nothing really gives you that 'you suck' feeling like when the fans turn for the tunnels. Little things like that makes the game more fun.

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Old 06-18-2011, 08:11 PM   #3
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I like that they exist in the game.

You have a point with the weather attendance not being 100% realistic, but I'm willing to suspend disbelief for that - I know that they're using it as a device to reinforce the IDEA that it's a horrible day to be outside. With the inclusion of Uniform & Field Degradation, that's cool.

The one thing I really DO want from half-empty stadiums is the scenario that used to exist years ago in previous versions of Madden - your team is losing and your fans start to leave, with a little commentary line to reinforce it.

Nothing really gives you that 'you suck' feeling like when the fans turn for the tunnels. Little things like that makes the game more fun.

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Awww I loved that feature in past games. I remember in my one of my Dolphins chises in the Madden PS2 days, My guys were already 3-9 playing a home game in a half empty stadium. I was losing the game and came the 4th quarter, I had about 400 people in the stands!!! One of the damnest things i've ever seen.

However, last year the Steelers was 10-2 in my chise and they played a home game in the snow to a half empty stadium. This never happens to winning teams, their stadiums are still packed. I could understand if they were 2-10 but geeze...

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Old 06-18-2011, 08:18 PM   #4
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Dynamic Crowd Attendence



Ever notice that half the Staples Center crowd is either tied up in traffic or too famous to arrive on time for the Lakers' tipoff? NBA 2K11 has, and the video game's "dynamic crowd" feature will reflect that.The gang at Visual Concepts studied attendance numbers and watched footage of broadcasts from every NBA arena over the course of the season, comparing that to factors such as star players visiting or the home team's record or playoff contention at the time.
So, not only will this govern capacity at tip-off, you'll see it through the game. The stands won't be full for the second half tip because a third of folks will still be in line for nachos or taking a dump. If you're getting jocked by 20 midway through the fourth on a school night, say goodbye to half your crowd. That sort of thing.
As with other aspects of the presentation, this will have a different meaning in Association, which is the game's persistent franchise mode. Visual Concepts says more details about that are coming, but it sounds like it will be tied to your position in the standings, especially if you're fighting with your nearest rival for home court or the last playoff slot. Next week, I'm told, we'll learn more about this and other new features in Association.
Crowd dynamics have been a pet detail of mine, especially as developers have tried to make its enthusiasm - or lack thereof - more authentic in recent titles. This is a very interesting detail to me, mostly because I know how sensitive the NBA is about image management and presenting its product. But the cold hard fact is not every game is a sellout, and not everyone's standing and cheering throughout. So good for 2K Sports for adding fluctuating attendance to the narrative you're building with your team's performance.
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Dynamic Crowd Attendence



Ever notice that half the Staples Center crowd is either tied up in traffic or too famous to arrive on time for the Lakers' tipoff? NBA 2K11 has, and the video game's "dynamic crowd" feature will reflect that.The gang at Visual Concepts studied attendance numbers and watched footage of broadcasts from every NBA arena over the course of the season, comparing that to factors such as star players visiting or the home team's record or playoff contention at the time.
So, not only will this govern capacity at tip-off, you'll see it through the game. The stands won't be full for the second half tip because a third of folks will still be in line for nachos or taking a dump. If you're getting jocked by 20 midway through the fourth on a school night, say goodbye to half your crowd. That sort of thing.
As with other aspects of the presentation, this will have a different meaning in Association, which is the game's persistent franchise mode. Visual Concepts says more details about that are coming, but it sounds like it will be tied to your position in the standings, especially if you're fighting with your nearest rival for home court or the last playoff slot. Next week, I'm told, we'll learn more about this and other new features in Association.
Crowd dynamics have been a pet detail of mine, especially as developers have tried to make its enthusiasm - or lack thereof - more authentic in recent titles. This is a very interesting detail to me, mostly because I know how sensitive the NBA is about image management and presenting its product. But the cold hard fact is not every game is a sellout, and not everyone's standing and cheering throughout. So good for 2K Sports for adding fluctuating attendance to the narrative you're building with your team's performance.
Your above picture isn't Phillips Arena. Below is. Notice the differences? That is probably a pic taken from an exhibition game in a non-NBA city where they used the Hawks floor.
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