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Originally Posted by xpmar9x |
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NOT looking forward to playing vs the Eagles... I'll need multiple LBs on QB spies, and will probably still get burnt by Vick. If you don't double DeSean he'll blow by me (being the Titans) easily. Looks like the ONLY thing you can do is try and get to Vick, being that the OL is avg at best.
Won't be able to pass the ball at all either with those 3 Amigos at CB.
This is not fair. lol
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If the retail is anything like the demo, then multiple QB spies probably won't even work. The QB spy mimics the QB movements, but there is really no logic in it. By setting up different types of plays using individual defensive assignments, I've checked how the defense reacts to a scrambling QB on
All-Pro, slow speed and speed threshold set at 0.
First observation: Defenders in zone coverage does not and cannot react to a scrambling QB until he's over the line of scrimmage. So you can basically moonwalk a few yards in front of a defender in zone coverage, as he cannot recognize that the QB is scrambling until he crosses the line of scrimmage.
Second observation: Defenders in man coverage cannot recognize and react to a scrambling QB until he's over the line of scrimmage.
Third observation: Defenders playing QB spy will move parallel with the line of scrimmage to try and contain the QB. However, in the demo both Rodgers and Cutler are fast enough to evade a single QB spy (LB).
If you assign two QB spies (two LBs), Rodgers usually outruns them, but Cutler struggles - I've still been able to get 15+ yards with Cutler when facing two QB spies as the AI only makes them mimic the movement of the QB, not necessarily tackle him at the line of scrimmage.
Against three QB spies (1 LB, 2 CBs), I've had success running with Rodgers, but no more than a 7-10 yard gain. I haven't had any success with Cutler against three QB spies.
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speed threshold 100 it becomes easier to scramble with Cutler. You can get 4-5 yards against three QB spies.
To summarize:- Neither defenders in zone or man coverage can react to a scrambling QB until he's over the line of scrimmage.
- Defenders playing QB spy will mimic the QB's movement, but not necessarily tackle him at the line of scrimmage. Especially if you make a juke move just before crossing the line of scrimmage - an animation won't play out, but the defender will be fooled nonetheless.
- Rodgers is successful against up to three QB spies, while Cutler struggles against two.
As I began this post; if the retail version is anything like the demo, Michael Vick will be a monster. To stop him, you'll probably need to assign 2 or 3 of your fastest players to playing QB spy, while trying to defend against the pass. Also as the juke move is overpowered in the Madden 12 demo, it's rather easy to turn a 4 yard gain into a 14 yard gain when scrambling with the QB.
Four verticals and a scrambling QB seems to be a winning formular in the Madden 12 demo as it was in Madden 04. And with very fast receivers and poor deep zone coverage AI (at least in the demo) and Vince Young as a backup for Vick (when he needs a rest), I fear that the Eagles will be completely unstoppable - as long as you remember to slide with the QB so you don't fumble the ball