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Old 08-22-2011, 02:42 PM   #33
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Re: Madden NFL 12 Player Ratings - New Orleans Saints and Tampa Bay Buccaneers

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The bucs got screwed. Even the panties got a better "madden" team despite being a lot worse in real life.

who are "the panties"???
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Old 08-22-2011, 02:59 PM   #34
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If you root for your division opponents when they don't play the Panthers, then you aren't a very good Panthers fan.

You seem knowledgeable enough though, so this is strange to me.
I watched all of our dismal 2-14 campaign, except the Thursday night game vs Pittsburgh because I don't have NFL Network. I am a fan of the pro game in general but my loyalty is to Carolina first, but I have a vested interest in all of the teams especially those within our division.
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Old 08-22-2011, 03:03 PM   #35
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You just agreed with me his speed should be bumped up to 88..... as far as using Colston and his Effectiveness- it has nothing to do with how I use him, it is more that specifically fades in general especially in the endzone are not as effective as they should be specifically with bigger guys and is something EA has yet to fix. There is no throwing a jump ball into the corner of the endzone and letting Colston go up and get it. It has nothing to do with ratings it's the way Madden itself plays because EA hasn't figured out how to have it play out realistically.

Top WR's for me are always Colston and Meachem... I usually trade Bush away immediately for draft picks.
I said no higher, to further clarify 88 is generous. I would say 86 is perfect. As far as the fade is concerned, user catching works wonders. Lob it while holding the L-Stick towards the back corner, switch while the ball is in the air and user catch it. I've seen Ramses Barden (nowhere near Colston's ratings) lead a OLF (Online Franchise) in TD's strictly off of fades.
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Old 08-22-2011, 03:10 PM   #36
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who are "the panties"???
He's referring to Carolina, as far as a comparison between the two rosters Carolina is only lacking in the DT, and QB position when compared to Tampa Bay, maybe DE depth also.

I would say WR as well but I consider Olsen a WR/TE hybrid so in addition to Smith, Shockey, and Gettis I'd say we have the edge there. At running back between Williams and Stewart edge to us, our secondaries I would consider a wash, but perhaps slight edge to TB given their size/speed at corner excluding Ronde, our LB's are very strong and I don't think another teams outside of Pittsburgh, and now Cincinatti after it's off-season can boast a better starting group, Beason, Anderson, Davis.
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Re: Madden NFL 12 Player Ratings - New Orleans Saints and Tampa Bay Buccaneers

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You just agreed with me his speed should be bumped up to 88..... as far as using Colston and his Effectiveness- it has nothing to do with how I use him, it is more that specifically fades in general especially in the endzone are not as effective as they should be specifically with bigger guys and is something EA has yet to fix. There is no throwing a jump ball into the corner of the endzone and letting Colston go up and get it. It has nothing to do with ratings it's the way Madden itself plays because EA hasn't figured out how to have it play out realistically.

Top WR's for me are always Colston and Meachem... I usually trade Bush away immediately for draft picks.
In my online franchise, Ramses Barden was my #2 WR solely because I could just throw the ball up to him and he'd come down with it almost every time. In my offline franchise, I had a 6'8" WR that was a 75 overall as my #1 WR. He won WR of the Year (simming the games) and was an absolute TD machine both when simulating and when playing. Fades in the endzone are incredibly effective in Madden. Even in the demo, I've been motioning Greg Olsen out wide and throwing it up to him for easy TDs.
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Ok, here's my non-biased revisions.

WR/TE

CTH
Colston, 96-->89
L-Mo, 87-->94
Meach 77-->95
SPD
Henderson 98-->96
L-Mo 88-->84
STR
Colston 77-->71
Humphrey 66-->74
INJ
Meachem 90-->78

Colston is pretty middle of the road catching the ball, makes amazing catches but also drops some easy ones. L-Mo is one of the more sure handed slot receivers in the league and Meachem led the league in min drop % during the -09 season and doesn't really drop any balls although he's mostly a deep threat (well, apart from that game against the 49ers this preseason.).

Also, no way Colstons strength should be higher than Humphreys seeing that he's mainly a blocking tight end.
Meach has battled through some injuries but should still not be that much slower than Henderson, he ran a 4.39, Henderson a 4.37 but is getting open more often plus he's younger and has taken less of a beating.

Running Backs:
INJ
Ivory 80-->45
TGH
Ivory 69-->97
TRK
Ivory 88-->93

Obviously staying healthy is a huge concern for Ivory. When he's playing though he's one of the hardest runners in the league, vastly underrated in this game.. YT his highlights and tell me that he is a guy who should have a 69 TGH rating. He was also second in the league in yards after contact, producing better than the vet RBs last year. If anything he's too tough for his own good, resulting in alot of injuries.

OVR
Evans 98-->96

Didn't play as well as he did in 09, Nicks arguably the better guard last year.

KAC
Hartley 89-->96

4th ranked FG% EVER, somewhat low KAC on shorter kicks, 101/99 on those kicks 45yds+.

D-Line
ACC
Galette 86-->91

Without a doubt the most explosive guy on our line, one-dimensional though..

DBs
SPD
Greer 88-->94
INJ
Greer 93-->58
Porter 75-->60
Jenkins 96-->86
MAN
Greer 92-->95
Porter 93-->84
ZCV
Greer 94-->88
Porter 86-->90

Greer has elite track speed and may very well be the fastest guy on the football field. An elite corner IF healthy (never played a full season), ranking in the top 5 in completion percentage against him. Very often on an island with the exotic blitz packages from GW.
Porter more of an Asante Samuel type of player.. Likes sitting back, sometimes abused in 1-on-1 coverage.
Our whole backfield has been somewhat injury prone, a tad high for MJ who missed some games last season as well as missing some practices this year with an injury.
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Ok, here's my non-biased revisions.

WR/TE

CTH
Colston, 96-->89
L-Mo, 87-->94
Meach 77-->95
SPD
Henderson 98-->96
L-Mo 88-->84
STR
Colston 77-->71
Humphrey 66-->74
INJ
Meachem 90-->78

Colston is pretty middle of the road catching the ball, makes amazing catches but also drops some easy ones. L-Mo is one of the more sure handed slot receivers in the league and Meachem led the league in min drop % during the -09 season and doesn't really drop any balls although he's mostly a deep threat (well, apart from that game against the 49ers this preseason.).

Also, no way Colstons strength should be higher than Humphreys seeing that he's mainly a blocking tight end.
Meach has battled through some injuries but should still not be that much slower than Henderson, he ran a 4.39, Henderson a 4.37 but is getting open more often plus he's younger and has taken less of a beating.

Running Backs:
INJ
Ivory 80-->45
TGH
Ivory 69-->97
TRK
Ivory 88-->93

Obviously staying healthy is a huge concern for Ivory. When he's playing though he's one of the hardest runners in the league, vastly underrated in this game.. YT his highlights and tell me that he is a guy who should have a 69 TGH rating. He was also second in the league in yards after contact, producing better than the vet RBs last year. If anything he's too tough for his own good, resulting in alot of injuries.

OVR
Evans 98-->96

Didn't play as well as he did in 09, Nicks arguably the better guard last year.

KAC
Hartley 89-->96

4th ranked FG% EVER, somewhat low KAC on shorter kicks, 101/99 on those kicks 45yds+.

D-Line
ACC
Galette 86-->91

Without a doubt the most explosive guy on our line, one-dimensional though..

DBs
SPD
Greer 88-->94
INJ
Greer 93-->58
Porter 75-->60
Jenkins 96-->86
MAN
Greer 92-->95
Porter 93-->84
ZCV
Greer 94-->88
Porter 86-->90

Greer has elite track speed and may very well be the fastest guy on the football field. An elite corner IF healthy (never played a full season), ranking in the top 5 in completion percentage against him. Very often on an island with the exotic blitz packages from GW.
Porter more of an Asante Samuel type of player.. Likes sitting back, sometimes abused in 1-on-1 coverage.
Our whole backfield has been somewhat injury prone, a tad high for MJ who missed some games last season as well as missing some practices this year with an injury.
What about our linebackers 504?
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Old 08-22-2011, 04:45 PM   #40
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Re: Madden NFL 12 Player Ratings - New Orleans Saints and Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Even with the Combo of Brees to Colston in Madden i've never really been able to complete the goalline fade route. Of course I was never really aware you could influnce it somewhat with the stick as i've been reading, been able to run some in NCAA 12 as of late so hopefully now I can take advantage of Colston's ratings lol.

Say what you want about Ingram's speed(it's at the right spot) but with his agility, acceleration, carrying, vision,etc he's gonna be an amazing RB for my offense and contribute right away.

Casillas has a good chance of starting and needs a bump, but he's rarely played in an actual season so it's understandable for his ratings.
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