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Old 09-02-2011, 06:34 PM   #9
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Re: M12 STATS ARE AMAZING WITH SLIDERS!!

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5 INTs from Brady, Rivers, and Cassel isn't worrisome, but 31 altogether for the season is, by the way: How was your D ranked in each category? Thanks.

for defense, i had the 3rd best defense as far as total yards goes.
if you looked at the qbs i faced above me. you will understand why i had the number 1 pass defense in the nfl. i had the 23rd worst run defense however.
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Old 09-02-2011, 06:35 PM   #10
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** to any mod, if you feel like this shouldnt be here. you can delete it because i already posted it in sliders forum also. i posted it here to show that the sim stats are very solid for this game.

The purpose of this thread is to show that madden 12 does have good stats. simulation and from when you play the game.

i just year 1 of my franchise as the bills. regular season that is. i did make it into the playoffs as a wild card. but more on that later.

what i am going to do is use the typical game stat box and use it for season stats. then talk about what you see.
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TEAM1ST2ND3RD4THSCORE
Buffalo Bills (10-6)
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Team Stats Comparison
Total Offense4872
Rushing Yards1546
Passing Yards3326
First Downs221
Punt Return Yards
Kick Return Yards
Total Yards6588
41Turnovers28
3rd Down Converstion40
4th Down Conversion50
2-Point Conversion
Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals
Penalties57
Posession Time
Boxscore
PASSINGRATINGC/ATTYDSTD/INTAVG
Blaine Gabbert78.7252/458338625/207.3
RUSHINGATTYDSAVGTDLONG
Chris Ivory1998604.3521
Johnny White1124634.1565
Noel Devine261023.9216
Blaine Gabbert18553.0111
Leanard Weaver9343.719
RECEIVINGRECYDSAVGTDLONG
Steve Johnson69119817.31284
Jonathan baldwin4665914.3350
Tori Gurly4466615.1470
Steve Nelson4046711.6228
Chris Ivory211396.6020
Tom Santi1214812.3225
Noel Devine9374.109
Johnny White9707.7019
Leonard Weaver7456.4214
Donald Jones611118.5180
DEFENSIVETACKSACKINTPDEFTD
Taylor Mays420180
Brooks Reed408120
Daryl Washington3755101
Kelvin Sheppard281030
Bruce Johnson242681
Patrick Peterson2407121
Marcell Dareus234000
Leodis Mckelvin2217200
Jairus Byrd210240
David Vobora204000
Kyle Williams205010
Cameron Sheffield161110
KICKINGFGM/APCTLONGXPM/APTS
Rian Lindell15/24624944/44
PUNTINGPUNTSYDSAVGIN20TB
Brian Moorman62283945.7810



okay now i will tell you what i ranked in the league for these...

total offense: 32nd
rushing yards: 21st
passing yard: 17th
first downs: 20th
turnovers: 26th
takeaways: 1st---> thats what the 41 on the cpu side is
3rd down conv: 24th
4th down conv: t 15th
penalties: 7th most

my sacks allowed was: 5th most
my sacks were tied for 11th most


i averaged 23.0 points per game. 10th best in the nfl
i allowed 28.8 points per game. 16th best in nfl.

i know the first thing that will stand out is all the picks i had with my 3 dbs.
first thing i want to point out is mckelvin and peterson are solid corners with good ball skills.

2nd and thee most important thing is the extreme luck i had with the quarterback i faced this year due to schedule and injury. i will break it down below for you

Elite

Tom Brady x2
Philip Rivers
Mike Vick
Matt Cassel
Combined: 72/127 for 1030 9tds and 6 ints

Good

Tony Romo
Matt Hasselbeck


Combined: 27/47 for 581 yards 5tds and 5 ints

Decent

Jason Cambell
Carson Palmer
Rex Grossman
Mark Brunell
Matt Moore
Eli Manning (bad eli)
Mark Sanchez
Tim Tebow
Chad Henne

Combined: 93/281 for 1464 yards 8tds and 20 ints


going into the turnovers/ take aways more. i had 41 total takeaways. 31 were interceptions. 10 were of course fumble recoveries.

my team only lost 4 fumbles. but i fumbled the ball 15 times

another note. i run a 3-4 defense. it was nice to see that the majority of my sacks came from my linebackers. and my sack leader was my rolb. good stuff.

for defense, i had the 3rd best defense as far as total yards goes.
if you looked at the qbs i faced above me. you will understand why i had the number 1 pass defense in the nfl. i had the 23rd worst run defense however.

if you have any questions you can def ask!

quite notes:

for qbs, manning and brady both threw for over 4400 yards. both had 39 tds vs 7 and 9 interceptions respectively.

for rbs:MJD and Frank gore the only backs to rush over 1400 yards. with 7 and 9 tds rushing respectively.

for wrs: marques colston and calvin johnson are the only 2 to break 1400 yards in receptions. they had 11 and 14 tds.

defensively: sack leader was joey porter with 19, 2nd was tyler brayton with 15. asante samuel and brandon flowers lead the nfl with 8 ints.

i want to make note that these stats resulted from using my slider set..which can be found here: http://www.operationsports.com/forum...y-updated.html
I wouldn't call Cassel elite. Grossman, Brunell, Moore, Tebow, and Henne are below average QB's. Grossman, Brunell, Moore could be classified as bad Qb's.
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I wouldn't call Cassel elite. Grossman, Brunell, Moore, Tebow, and Henne are below average QB's. Grossman, Brunell, Moore could be classified as bad Qb's.
i agree with you 100% but i threw cassel in elite cuz of his last year numbers...

everything else i did to not start a war on here about where qbs belong cuz it takes away from the point of this thread and will get it closed...

so thats why the lowest i went was "decent" lol
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anyone else have any stats they want to comment on or thoughts on the season? other than the 31 interceptions??
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I've got some serious problems with the completion percentages for your 'decent' QBs.

93/281? That's 33%! And over a 9 game stretch!

I'd be pulling my hair out if the CPU was only completing one third of his passes in any individual game; if over half my season was filled with that horrid passing display, I'd quit playing all together.

For the entire season your completion percentage allowed is around 42%.

I don't feel like digging through a ton of real stats, but in 2009, Darrelle Revis led the NFL in lowest completion percentage allowed with 36.9% (he allowed 41 catches in 111 passes). The Jets meanwhile still allowed 259/501 (51.7%) on the season. (I only picked 2009, because Revis came to mind, and that was the only season I could find his stats without looking too hard).

Even if your team was full of Darrelle Revis clones, I don't think it is realistic. Short passes and high percentage passes are extremely prevalent in the NFL these days, and any set of sliders that leads to opposing QBs completing around 40% of their passes over the course of a season is not realistic.
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That was the main thing that really stood out, but on a second look, nearly everything about the CPU passing stats is wrong.

Basically, there are only two stat areas that matter on offense (I won't speak of defense, because although your tackle numbers are very low, there could have been injuries): Rushing and Passing. You didn't really give enough info on rushing (yards per carry is the main number and should roughly be between 3 and 5 depending on how good your D is), but you gave your passing numbers. Your D stats point that you had 31 sacks, and that's pretty realistic. But that's where the realism stops.

I already went over how your completion percentage was ridiculously low. You allowed ~42%, and over the past 5 years, the lowest percentage for an individual season that any NFL defense put together was 50.7% (Jets 2010). The league leader in low completions percentage over each of those seasons generally ranged between 51 and 55%. For comparison, the worst defensive percentage allowed in a season over the past 5 years was 70.1% by the '07 Lions (the highest number for the other seasons was usually between 66-68.5%).

Another thing that stands out: You allowed only 192 completions, yet gave up 3075 yards. That's 16 yards per completion, which is unheard of in recent times. In the past 5 seasons, the highest yards per completion allowed in an individual season was 12.75. There were only 17 seasons of 12+ yards/completion during that 5 year span (that's 17 out of 160 total). The rest were all between 9 and 12 yards/completion. Your number is over 25% higher than the league leading number over the past 5 years. This means that although you allowed a ridiculously low percentage of completions, you gave up a huge number of long passes.

And finally, while 31 INTs isn't necessarily unrealistic, it is unrealistic when considering you only faced 455 passes all season. This means you intercepted 6.8% of passes... this basically means that for every 40ish passes you picked off 3 of them. Over the past 5 seasons, the highest interception percentage recorded in any individual season was 5.501% by the '06 Ravens. Only THREE teams recorded a season over that 5 year stretch of 5% or better (and 32 teams * 5 seasons = 160 season sample size). It was rare enough for a team to be above 4%... yet you beat the best season by well over a whole percentage point.

Passing stats don't have to be perfect for me to enjoy a game, but QBs throwing a huge number of picks, completing a very low percentage of passes, and hitting a large number of long passes is pretty much a unplayable to me (this was my #1 problem with NFL2k5, which suffered from all 3 of these problems when you played against the CPU).
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