Realistic Trades...

[mjhyankees]

Just curious for people's opinions and ideas for realistic trading in franchise. This thread is not for those you just want to be champions each year and fleece the rest of the NFL on every trade.

I usually use this as a guide....and I play a 32 team chise where I make all my own trades:

1. A team doesn't fill a hole by creating another hole. IE. Trading Brady for Andre Johnson.

2. Most NFL trades do NOT involve a player for player swap. Check it out if you don't believe me. Yes there are a few here or there but mostly they are for draft picks.

3. For that matter, teams rarely trade their #1 pick. When they do they are getting a star player that they expect to be around for a while.

4. Teams may draft to stock up at a position or to fill holes. Once they do they do not trade away that player they picked. IE. The Bills draft a QB with the #1 pick. No way they trade him away (if they needed a qB which they do) no matter what you offer them (unless it's an established star qB...which no team would trade anyway). The only time teams trade away top picks after drafting them (I'm talking about the same season, not 3 years down the road) is when there is a prearrangement with another team (not sure that's allowed) or the pick informs them that he will not sign (See Eli manning).

5. Teams usually try to trade away older more expensive players to get draft picks (ie, younger, cheaper players).

6. If a team has a good young player (say in the 80's ovr with good potential) and a high priced older player (say in the 90's and 30 or more years old), they often release or trade the older guy.

7. More good players get released than traded (usually because they are getting older or are not playing up to their hefty contract - see Albert Haynesworth). yes some get trades but just go online now and look at NFL transactions since the lockout ended. More big name players were released ala LT from the Chargers.

8. Just thought of this. Teams don't give up good draft picks for aging, possibly over the hill players with one exception: If a team is really close to winning it all and they need that one guy (like the Vikes when they got Favre) they may be willing to mortgage the future to get a guy. I did this in a chise back on Madden 08 (at least it's the only one I remember). Can't remember the players involved but I had the Bears in year 3 or 4 of a chise. They had a 90's rated D. Forte was a good back and I'd drafted some good reciever and the O line was solid. No Qb though. I brought in someone (McNabb?) and traded away my 1st and 2nd round picks.....it didn't work though....

These are what I go by in my chise. I think most of this is what the NFL does anyway. Feel free to challenge me on this or post things I haven't thought of or what you just plain disagree with.

Just please keep it real guys.

[shadia147]

Great post, I might have to copy and paste that for future considerations.
But... If I understand the hype of this years Madden, doesnt the CPU logic make trades on it's own? "Getting rid of high priced veterans for promising new talent?"
Sorry, I play 32 team Chise too. But I leave all roster moves on CPU.

[jcc309]

Your rules are spot on. I agree completely with everything said. The only problem is, I am curious as to what the draft picks are worth. It does no good to know the exact type of trade an NFL team would do if I am getting a draft pick too rounds too high. Do you have any rough guide as to what they are worth? I was considering just making a 1 team franchise and put people on the block to see what I can get for them as maybe a possible solution and just translating the results to my 32 team franchise.

[mjhyankees]

Quote: Originally Posted by jcc309

Your rules are spot on. I agree completely with everything said. The only problem is, I am curious as to what the draft picks are worth. It does no good to know the exact type of trade an NFL team would do if I am getting a draft pick too rounds too high. Do you have any rough guide as to what they are worth? I was considering just making a 1 team franchise and put people on the block to see what I can get for them as maybe a possible solution and just translating the results to my 32 team franchise.

Not sure what you mean by this. Monetarily? Or Talent? I look at it this way. If you drafted well your picks should yield players something like this (this is just my best guess...may be way off here).

1st round 90+ (I'm not saying in his first year but in his prime)
2nd 80's.
3rd Upper 70's to low 80's

and so on.

So if you are trading for someone's first round pick, you should be giving up a guy in the 90's because that's likely, or hopefully what you'll get in the draft (does this year's game have draft busts in it?).

On top of that he shouldn't be too old. IE. a 92 QB who is 36 will not likely get you a 1st round pick in the top ten let's say. Which just reminded my of another rule....going to edit now.