Changing a players position.

[CRMosier_LM]

Quote: Originally Posted by jclentzthadon

So, what happens if you play a 3-4 olb at a 4-3 DE position? Does he not progress as well, regress because of scheme or does everything playout ok?

If he hits his milestones he will progress fine.

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[jclentzthadon]

Quote: Originally Posted by CRMosier_LM

If he hits his milestones he will progress fine. Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk 2

What are the pitfalls of playing a Orakpo, Woodley, Clay Mathews, Ware, etc at outside LB? Is it soley goal based? I personally like running a 4-3 and am curious.

Thanks to anyone in advance.

[TeamBuilder]

Quote: Originally Posted by jclentzthadon

So, what happens if you play a 3-4 olb at a 4-3 DE position? Does he not progress as well, regress because of scheme or does everything playout ok?

The concern is primarily with how the CPU handles players. The CPU will not start players in other positions on the depth chart. If the CPU Colts switch from their 3-4 defense back to a 4-3, they would release or trade OLB Robert Mathis instead of simply converting him back to a DE. That is the problem.

[Jukeman]

Quote: Originally Posted by TeamBuilder

The concern is primarily with how the CPU handles players. The CPU will not start players in other positions on the depth chart. If the CPU Colts switch from their 3-4 defense back to a 4-3, they would release or trade OLB Robert Mathis instead of simply converting him back to a DE. That is the problem.

If its like HC09, he'll still play OLB but his ratings wouldnt be as good.

Worst case tho like u said, they'll start releasing and trading away players. Either way, its not good...

[pinksheets]

Yeah, this is one of my biggest concerns with Madden, and one of the reasons I'm not that impressed with CC and the introduction of schemes. Teams will not be making the best decisions in FA/trades for their scheme, because the logic is clearly missing a crucial piece in which CPU teams should be identifying players who play one position in certain schemes but would play differently in their scheme. 3-4 pass rushing OLBs should for no reason be looked at as 4-3 OLBs, and 4-3 DEs should not be looked at as 3-4 DEs. The only result this can have will be a) a player's FA market being considerably smaller due to teams not being able to make the quick connection that the player would be great in their scheme in a different positon or b) talent going to absolute waste being played out of position.

[Big FN Deal]

Quote: Originally Posted by pinksheets

Yeah, this is one of my biggest concerns with Madden, and one of the reasons I'm not that impressed with CC and the introduction of schemes. Teams will not be making the best decisions in FA/trades for their scheme, because the logic is clearly missing a crucial piece in which CPU teams should be identifying players who play one position in certain schemes but would play differently in their scheme. 3-4 pass rushing OLBs should for no reason be looked at as 4-3 OLBs, and 4-3 DEs should not be looked at as 3-4 DEs. The only result this can have will be a) a player's FA market being considerably smaller due to teams not being able to make the quick connection that the player would be great in their scheme in a different positon or b) talent going to absolute waste being played out of position.

Wait, I am confused. It seems there may be a chance that this IS how it works in CC, which is what I was saying earlier. There are some that are upset about the prospect of the CPU ONLY going by these strict guidelines that you seem to want to be the case.

Different strokes for different folks I guess, lol.

[CRMosier_LM]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

Wait, I am confused. It seems there may be a chance that this IS how it works in CC, which is what I was saying earlier. There are some that are upset about the prospect of the CPU ONLY going by these strict guidelines that you seem to want to be the case. Different strokes for different folks I guess, lol.

Cpu goes after players that fit its system. It will pursue a 3-4 end if it runs a 3-4. It will pursue a 4-3 end if it runs a 4-3. Welcome to the nfl folks, not every player is universal to different systems... The players that are... They are very rare.

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[pinksheets]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

Wait, I am confused. It seems there may be a chance that this IS how it works in CC, which is what I was saying earlier. There are some that are upset about the prospect of the CPU ONLY going by these strict guidelines that you seem to want to be the case. Different strokes for different folks I guess, lol.

There are people who want 4-3 teams to judge DeMarcus Ware as an OLB in their 4-3 rather than playing a DE? Maybe I'm confused. I simply want CPU teams to judge a player based on what he can do in their scheme. If he's a 4-3 DT who would be a bad NT but an excellent DE in a team's 3-4, that's what I want them to be considering in FA/the draft, etc. Not only how he fits as his Madden listed position. I was under the impression based on an earlier Q & A thread that players will be judged exclusively by their position.