So NOW is QA Important?

[splff3000]

Quote: Originally Posted by bucky60

It can't be tested until it's gold and when it's gold it can't be changed? LOL. Never, ever in my life heard or was part of something like this as a sound software development strategy. You kill me with your responses.

I concur Bucky. I chuckled a lil when I read his post lol.

[Pared]

Quote: Originally Posted by splff3000

lol What if they aren't? Not trying to be a smart ***, but there have been plenty of times when the community just knew the fix for a bug or glitch was coming in a patch and it never came. Transfer Failed Error in NCAA, anyone? The problem isn't the bugs per se'. The problem is how easy and how quickly we, the consumer, find the bugs. Like I said before, if I find a bug in year 5 of CC I would be disappointed and maybe upset depending on how bad it was, but I would understand it more so than me not even being able to start my CC because their are bugs all over the place right off the bat. That's the problem in this scenario. I've never been a big "bug" complainer when it comes to Madden because I can usually accept the severity and the amount of the bugs the game is release with. I'm usually talking about getting WR/CB interaction better or O-line blocking better and things like this. This year tho, it's pretty ridiculous all the bugs that pop up right off the bat.

No, I hear ya. I am just saying people are assuming that QA didn't catch these things... and this entire discussion will be moot if they are fixed after the first title update. History is not kind to my proposal.... but it has happened with other games. I've seen it.

[mrprice33]

Nobody in here plays Bethesda games, I guess.

[bucky60]

Quote: Originally Posted by Pared

No, I hear ya. I am just saying people are assuming that QA didn't catch these things... and this entire discussion will be moot if they are fixed after the first title update. History is not kind to my proposal.... but it has happened with other games. I've seen it.

Or they just don't admit that something is broken, like the UDFA mess last year. Even after being caught, EA refused to acknowledge it and fix it. I guess the design was to have teams keep a bunch of 30 rated players, releasing 75-80 rated guys.

I just have no faith that EA/Tib will patch all the things that need to be patched. Not sure an on site user base QA would be financially feasible. I'm with you on that. Other games that I play don't seem to have nearly the issues that Madden has. Other company's QA models seem to be working better than EA/Tibs.

[bucky60]

Quote: Originally Posted by mrprice33

Nobody in here plays Bethesda games, I guess.

Bethesda makes some very complicated games that issues get patched pretty quickly. That and they have a VERY OPEN GAME (on the PC) that allows the user to go into a console command mode and get past issues so they can continue on with their game. The openness of the game also allows modder's to quickly fix and greatly enhance the base game. I know, I've had Oblivion, Fallout 3, Fallout 3 New Vegas and Skyrim. I've never had deal breakers with Bethesda's games like I've had with Madden.

Madden has been and is even more so now, a very closed game.

[PGaither84]

I can't help but think of all the "It's only E3/the demo/an old build! Wait for the retail copy!" every time someone brings up an issue.

[Danimal]

Quote: Originally Posted by CRMosier_LM

What "big issues"? Seriously. I know there are bugs but I have yet to see a "big issue" that makes the game unplayable? I'm not attempting to be a smartass but I hear about these "big issues" from maybe 20 people on this board but yet no one goes into any detail?!? Are we just using annoyances or is there something that actually makes the game unable to be played?? Sent from my ADR6400L using Tapatalk 2

Big Issues are relative to the person playing, For me I won't start our online CCM until accelerated clock is working in user vs user games. Could we play...YES. We could set it to 5 or 7 minute quarters and forget the clock but we don't like it this way.

Is it game breaking, not in the literal sense. Is it killing the enjoyment for me and a half doze guys in my league...Yes.

The more important question to me is how is it a surprise it doesn't work? I assume online CCM was tested and user vs user games were played, so how do you miss this?

[RGiles36]

Quote: Originally Posted by Danimal

Big Issues are relative to the person playing, For me I won't start our online CCM until accelerated clock is working in user vs user games. Could we play...YES. We could set it to 5 or 7 minute quarters and forget the clock but we don't like it this way. Is it game breaking, not in the literal sense. Is it killing the enjoyment for me and a half doze guys in my league...Yes.

Wasn't aware this was happening...fudge.