Is there any plan for EA to REALLY fix auto sub cause it is still broken!

[feeq14]

Thread tittle says it all. Auto subs was supposed to be fixed but as far as i can tell from rigorous testing, players still do not sub out any differently regardless of how i adjust sliders.

To be specific:

I am trying to run a back tandem in my offline CCM. I turn my autosub up to 75-95 or so ration. Matt Forte who has good fatigue comes out after 6-8 straight runs when his player icon turns red. I turn my sub down to 0-5... same exact result. I turn fatigue up a few notches, he may get a few less runs but he still NEVER comes out before he hits the red zone. I have tried this with several positions and none of them seem to change the result. No matter what your user settings are, a player will not come out untill they hit the red zone, and the red zone status DOES NOT CHANGE regardless of your sliders, it only responds to the players stamina rating and the fatigue slider.

What this means is that auto sub still DOES NOT WORK even after the last patch. Is anything going to be done about this because we were told it was going to be fixed in the last patch.

[kongemeier]

I've tweeted both Josh Looman and EASports about this and got nothing back So I don't think this will get a fix but your guess is as good as mine.

It's really a shame! What the point of having depth on your roster and trying to get younger players to develop if they only see the field on +10 plays drives and when a starter is injured!?

[Drtro]

Your mind must be playing games with you.

I had my HB set to 85/90 and HB's would sub after about 5-6 straight runs. I now have it at 90/95 and they get subbed if I run it 3-4 straight times or one big run.

I also set my DE to 60/70 and DT to 50/60. There's a difference when each position gets subbed. It's not at the same time.

They're not broken. Either you just think they are or you're one of those people who just love to make the game sound awful when it's not.

[Drtro]

Quote: Originally Posted by kongemeier

I've tweeted both Josh Looman and EASports about this and got nothing back So I don't think this will get a fix but your guess is as good as mine. It's really a shame! What the point of having depth on your roster and trying to get younger players to develop if they only see the field on +10 plays drives and when a starter is injured!?

That's what practice is for.

[kongemeier]

Quote: Originally Posted by Drtro

Your mind must be playing games with you. I had my HB set to 85/90 and HB's would sub after about 5-6 straight runs. I now have it at 90/95 and they get subbed if I run it 3-4 straight times or one big run. I also set my DE to 60/70 and DT to 50/60. There's a difference when each position gets subbed. It's not at the same time. They're not broken. Either you just think they are or you're one of those people who just love to make the game sound awful when it's not.

Is this in CCM? If then is it online or offline? Do you mind posting all your CCM settings (or PM then to me) in your CCM. Everything from sliders, CCM settings and auto-subs. Also, do you have the exact same settings in the My Madden options as you do in your CCM? I know that's a lot of questions but I have spent several hours trying to get my auto-subs to work!

I know auto-subs work in play now but they don't work for me and several others in CCM at all!

So no, my mind is not playing games with me and I'm not complaining just to complain!!

[Drtro]

Quote: Originally Posted by kongemeier

Is this in CCM? If then is it online or offline? Do you mind posting all your CCM settings (or PM then to me) in your CCM. Everything from sliders, CCM settings and auto-subs. Also, do you have the exact same settings in the My Madden options as you do in your CCM? I know that's a lot of questions but I have spent several hours trying to get my auto-subs to work! I know auto-subs work in play now but they don't work for me and several others in CCM at all! So no, my mind is not playing games with me and I'm not complaining just to complain!!

They're pretty much the same settings in both. I play offline CCM with coach mode turned on. I basically do nothing but kick returns. I'm sure these would work without it as well if you maybe drop Broken Tackles and INT.

All Pro
Very Slow Game Speed
15 Minute Quarters
14 Second Accelerated Clock
43 Injury*
55 Fatigue*
0 Speed Threshold
Coach Mode On

Human/CPU
QB Accuracy - 10/10
Pass Block - 0/0
WR Catch - 55/55

Break Tackle - 20/20
Run Block - 0/0
Fumble - 10/10

Pass Reaction Time - 0/0
Interception - 25/25
Pass Rush - 0/0

Run Reaction Time - 0/0
Block Shed - 0/0
Tackle - 0/0

Kick Power - 46
Kick Accuracy - 49
Punt Power - 45
Punt Accuracy - 47
Kickoff Power - 48

Offsides - 100
False Start - 55
Holding - 55
Face Mask - 55
DPI - 99
OPI - 50
KR/PR Interference - 50
Clipping - 33
INT Grounding - 50
Roughing Passer - 54
Roughing Kicker - 50

Auto-Subs Out/In
QB - 0/1
HB - 90/95
WR - 20/40
FB&TE - 20/40
OL - 20/40

DT - 50/60
DE - 50/60
LB - 40/60
CB - 40/60
S - 40/60

[DL - 60/70 if you have good depth]

[kongemeier]

Quote: Originally Posted by Drtro

They're pretty much the same settings in both. I play offline CCM with coach mode turned on. I basically do nothing but kick returns. I'm sure these would work without it as well if you maybe drop Broken Tackles and INT. All Pro Very Slow Game Speed 15 Minute Quarters 14 Second Accelerated Clock 43 Injury* 55 Fatigue* 0 Speed Threshold Coach Mode On Human/CPU QB Accuracy - 10/10 Pass Block - 0/0 WR Catch - 55/55 Break Tackle - 20/20 Run Block - 0/0 Fumble - 10/10 Pass Reaction Time - 0/0 Interception - 25/25 Pass Rush - 0/0 Run Reaction Time - 0/0 Block Shed - 0/0 Tackle - 0/0 Kick Power - 46 Kick Accuracy - 49 Punt Power - 45 Punt Accuracy - 47 Kickoff Power - 48 Offsides - 100 False Start - 55 Holding - 55 Face Mask - 55 DPI - 99 OPI - 50 KR/PR Interference - 50 Clipping - 33 INT Grounding - 50 Roughing Passer - 54 Roughing Kicker - 50 Auto-Subs Out/In QB - 0/1 HB - 90/95 WR - 20/40 FB&TE - 20/40 OL - 20/40 DT - 50/60 DE - 50/60 LB - 40/60 CB - 40/60 S - 40/60 [DL - 60/70 if you have good depth]

Thanks a bunch!

I will try to enter the exact same settings when I get a chance to see if I can get the same results! Like I said in another thread with the work-a-round for CPU playcalling this is the only thing that's bugging me in M13. I'm really having a blast in CCM...

[KingV2k3]

My two cents:

They work!

Not exactly as in the past, but they work...

IF:

You set them in My Madden OUTSIDE of CCM exactly as they are set inside of CCM...

My experience has been that they only work if set in My Madden...

Key:

Don't back out of CCM into main menu, or they will default.

Save your career and profile and then quit game or shut down system without backing out into main menu!!!

I agree with Drtro:

They've worked for me EVERY game since release.