Identifying The Mike

[BezO]

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

One, offer a more field level type game play view, ie Back Breaker, which would allow there to be an actual visual game play difference to the User's POV, for each player based on BCV.

Vision is less about what the RB is actually seeing and more about his interpretation & anticipation. A RB with good "vision" sees the defensive front, knows the blocking scheme, then reads, influences & anticipates. A RB with poor vision may or may not take note of the defensive front, may not quite understand how his linemen are going to block it, thus reads the play slower and is not able to anticipate. He may also not be as effective setting blocks up. When he misses a hole, it's not always because he literally didn't see it. It's because he didn't anticipate it and/or help create it. A camera view can't duplicate this.

Quote: Originally Posted by Big FN Deal

Two, let BCV be a ratings modifier for ball carriers in the backfield, so if there are two RBs with almost identical ratings except for BCV, they would manually control differently, in the backfield, due to BCV modifying their ratings and the type of running animations they trigger.

I think this is where it has to be, though I would hate for them to take away animations from an otherwise quick, elusive RB.

Maybe slow the response time a bit. The problem with that is it assumes the user is on time & has good vision. When the user is late, it's a double penalty on the RB.

I think accounting for RB vision is tougher than QB vision.

[ubernoob]

Quote: Originally Posted by d11king

If that's the case, then let them take it back to Gamestop and be done with the game. Then EA Sports can truly focus on making a game for people who want the game to play like its supposed to and we wouldn't have games like Madden 2001 - Madden 2013

And there go most of Maddens sales.

[KBLover]

Quote: Originally Posted by BezO

Vision is less about what the RB is actually seeing and more about his interpretation & anticipation. A RB with good "vision" sees the defensive front, knows the blocking scheme, then reads, influences & anticipates. A RB with poor vision may or may not take note of the defensive front, may not quite understand how his linemen are going to block it, thus reads the play slower and is not able to anticipate. He may also not be as effective setting blocks up. When he misses a hole, it's not always because he literally didn't see it. It's because he didn't anticipate it and/or help create it. A camera view can't duplicate this.

Doesn't Madden do this already in a sense by making blockers "block more timely" when the ball carrier has high BCV?

It seems to be the game's way of emulating this ability to read and anticipate.

[Big FN Deal]

Quote: Originally Posted by BezO

Vision is less about what the RB is actually seeing and more about his interpretation & anticipation. A RB with good "vision" sees the defensive front, knows the blocking scheme, then reads, influences & anticipates. A RB with poor vision may or may not take note of the defensive front, may not quite understand how his linemen are going to block it, thus reads the play slower and is not able to anticipate. He may also not be as effective setting blocks up. When he misses a hole, it's not always because he literally didn't see it. It's because he didn't anticipate it and/or help create it. A camera view can't duplicate this. I think this is where it has to be, though I would hate for them to take away animations from an otherwise quick, elusive RB. Maybe slow the response time a bit. The problem with that is it assumes the user is on time & has good vision. When the user is late, it's a double penalty on the RB. I think accounting for RB vision is tougher than QB vision.

These are good points and the game play view was a suggestion to put the limitations on the User, not the in-game ball carrier. So limiting the Users actual view on the screen would alter their interpretation & anticipation on the stick, which would effect how they perform with the in-game runner.

Giving this more thought, having BCV be a User applicable rating outside a game play view change is premature because there are so many other parameters lacking. I don't know if that other football game even had a BCV rating, never thought about it because the other parameters didn't allow Users to successfully ad lib on run plays, like Madden does. So it's cool for BCV to just be an AI based rating IF the other applicable parameters for running the ball on a particular play, like line play, penalties, other ratings/animations, etc, are done well.

[NDAlum]

No way

You'll have to deal with idiots running around with the MLB messing everything up

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Quote: Originally Posted by NDAlum

No way You'll have to deal with idiots running around with the MLB messing everything up

Well a truly well designed physics engine would punish the goofball running circles behind the Dline before every snap by costing him all his leverage and making him easy to fake.

[Cnada]

I Like it , been sgguesting it for a while.

Scales well between pro and all madden.

Improves the cat and mouse gameplay which madden needs more of.

[anechoic04]

I would like some kind of feature to not only identify the mike or a blitzer or something, but identify the elite players. Maybe it's my TV, but sometimes I have to work to find the elite players on the defense and find a way to handle them. It would just be nice if, say DeMarcus Ware was highlighted so I could specifically double-team him or run the ball in the opposite direction or something.