Why Will Next Gen Be Different?

[SageInfinite]

Quote: Originally Posted by LBzrule

I agree Sage. It seems like things are there but they are not strategy based. Let me give an example between two of their games. Why does NCAA have defenders being aggressive out of their zones to attack the scrambling QB and Madden does not, although I don't think the defenders in NCAA are all that aggressive. People might say well Madden has spy. Well, that doesn't matter when the guy on offense SWERVES taking off from the CURB and breaks your defenders knees. Now of course this happens sometimes, but in Madden 25 it has EVERY time. Now I know there are some things you can do to create a "SWERVELESS" spy, but man it's too much micromanagement. They really need to get line stunts in the game so we can contain the QB that way. Denver was running stunts last night to contain Pryor on some downs. And why have their defensive based strategy to defend the option when you are on defense you don't know who is going to take the QB? You should at least be able to see who on your defense is going to take the QB on the read option. But noo, only the offense can see that? What kind of sense does that make? Then, why is it that with all the adjustments you can make in terms of hot blitzes and what not, the person on offense, all they have to do is flip their play or call hot routes and it resets your defensive adjustments? Again, wtf kind of sense does that make? Yeah the offense controls what the defensive coordinator calls. Just another Also, can we finally get a damn defensive end running down hill faster than a QB backpedaling? There should be no way if I have a free defender that a QB can backpedal faster than him then spin around and start running away from him and almost turn the damn corner and get up the field. Stop the circus theatrics and let's deal with football please.

[Bull_Dozer]

I'm not certain it will be different. Which is why I'll wait for reviews before deciding whether to buy it.

[roadman]

Quote: Originally Posted by Cowboy008

Does anyone know when they are going to release footage of Madden? The game comes out in less than 2 months.. I would like to know what the game looks like in motion.

Nobody knows but EA.

Thinking they are squeezing everything out of the 360 and PS3 at the moment.

[kjcheezhead]

This game is just so arcade to me. The passing system alone. Untether the ball from the wrs so I'm not completing 90% with Bj Coleman and Green Bays second team offense. Have the wrs actually fight for the pass so when I do make a bad read I don't have to watch a db grab the pick while my wr just keeps running with out stretched arms.

That needs to happen before we can even start to discuss strategy and football fundamentals, stunts, engaged player movement, reach tackles, qbs trucking, etc.

I just can't take this game as a serious simulation when the passing basics are worse than the ps2 era. All talk of next gen madden ends there for me. Until I see a single pass play, there is no reason to expect a better game in a couple months

[Jet Sufferer]

Unless the guys making this game for the new generation are immensely more talented than the guys who made it this generation, it won't be different, end of story, close the thread lol.

With that being said, I really don't see how the games can be any worse, I mean there were a bunch of Maddens released this gen that played like first efforts from a couple of dudes in their basement, except for some pretty graphics.

Hoping for something halfway decent, fingers crossed but really I've just been expecting the worst since Madden 07, after those first 2 clunkers I saw the writing on the wall, and much to my dismay I've been exactly right about what I expected and what we got, biggest disappointment in my history of gaming and I go back to Pong and Atari.

[mnyce]

Quote: Originally Posted by kjcheezhead

This game is just so arcade to me. The passing system alone. Untether the ball from the wrs so I'm not completing 90% with Bj Coleman and Green Bays second team offense. Have the wrs actually fight for the pass so when I do make a bad read I don't have to watch a db grab the pick while my wr just keeps running with out stretched arms. That needs to happen before we can even start to discuss strategy and football fundamentals, stunts, engaged player movement, reach tackles, qbs trucking, etc. I just can't take this game as a serious simulation when the passing basics are worse than the ps2 era. All talk of next gen madden ends there for me. Until I see a single pass play, there is no reason to expect a better game in a couple months

This is fundamentally why I have difficulty enjoying this game. The passing system needs a complete overhaul and it's one of the things I hope I see get addressed this year with madden next gen. My gut tells me since they haven't talked about it and it wasn't the focus at e3 .. It most likely won't get touched for Madden 15. This is one of the reason why I'm still playing 2k5 again this year with updated rosters .. After all these years, this game still has a wow factor.

For me, better graphics/ better side line interaction will not be enough for me to purchase madden 15 on next gen even though I have it preordered on the ps4. I was lucky enough to get it on a $39.99 promo futureshop was running during e3 but even at that price if that fundamentals of the game aren't overhauled .. I'll be cancelling my preorder ..

I've come to the conclusion that as long as madden continues to feel like an arcade game I won't be making a purchase and I'll continue to enjoy 2k5 with updated rosters.

On a brighter note, there's FIFA and NBA 2k14 next gen to look forward to and I know they'll deliver.

[wech]

Quote: Originally Posted by Jet Sufferer

Unless the guys making this game for the new generation are immensely more talented than the guys who made it this generation, it won't be different, end of story, close the thread lol. With that being said, I really don't see how the games can be any worse, I mean there were a bunch of Maddens released this gen that played like first efforts from a couple of dudes in their basement, except for some pretty graphics. Hoping for something halfway decent, fingers crossed but really I've just been expecting the worst since Madden 07, after those first 2 clunkers I saw the writing on the wall, and much to my dismay I've been exactly right about what I expected and what we got, biggest disappointment in my history of gaming and I go back to Pong and Atari.

Great post and all but I mainly wanted to say that I think your name is hilarious! What an awesome screen name.

[SageInfinite]

With 10X the detail, Madden NFL has never looked so real. See every nuance of a player’s face, equipment, and clothing as the line blurs between the players in the game and their real-life counterparts. Up to 4x the texture resolution breathes new life into stadiums, crowds, the field, and even the ball itself. Combined with high-fidelity animations that deliver the smoothest, most authentic looking player interactions ever, Madden NFL 25 delivers Next Definition visuals.

This is a given, but they also need to add all the equipment this time around too. Also one set of Nike cleats is glitched from a distance on current gen. Saw the same glitch in the E3 demo. No excuse for that not to be fixed.

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This is my biggest issue. I still don't think the running looked right from the E3 demo. Steps were still choppy and weird. Looked better than current gen though.

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Interested to see if this is just talk. If players still don't have realistic movements, it won't matter.

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Best news of next gen. Still if everything is tethered and psychic why does it matter? If Lineman still slide and warp what's the point? You still can't mix and match and tailor your defense. I want to see confused lineman as well. Not because their dumb, but because the defensive call was brilliant.

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Really can't wait to hear and see this stuff. I wonder if the crowd will finally feel electric and intense. I wish they would've mentioned playoff and big game crowds though. Every game and stadium is different across the NFL. Game should reflect that.