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myownsun · 06-09-2004, 03:56 AM

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spin16 said:
I'm more concerned with the fact that he puts the ball right on his guy. Pinkston made no adjustment whatsoever.

OH ok i see your point But then again thats not impossible for mcnugget to do

Jistic · 06-09-2004, 08:55 AM

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spin16 said:
http://www.maddenauthority.com/Video%20C...%20Pinkston.mpg

Very, very sad.

This is only a 12-yard drop back, but still off the back foot, with McNabb, a guy of average accuracy. Unbelievable.

Is this really any worse than the CPU never throwing a ball more than 20 yards in ESPN? Seriously there are issues with both games, not really fair to only point out one.

spin16 · 06-09-2004, 09:11 AM

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Jistic said:

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spin16 said:
http://www.maddenauthority.com/Video%20C...%20Pinkston.mpg

Very, very sad.

This is only a 12-yard drop back, but still off the back foot, with McNabb, a guy of average accuracy. Unbelievable.

Is this really any worse than the CPU never throwing a ball more than 20 yards in ESPN? Seriously there are issues with both games, not really fair to only point out one.

Unfortunately I've never played ESPN -- don't have it on the PC.

jordan0386 · 06-09-2004, 09:23 AM

what!!!!!!!!!...havent you heard espn is like

Motown · 06-09-2004, 09:59 AM

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Jistic said:

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spin16 said:
http://www.maddenauthority.com/Video%20C...%20Pinkston.mpg

Very, very sad.

This is only a 12-yard drop back, but still off the back foot, with McNabb, a guy of average accuracy. Unbelievable.

Is this really any worse than the CPU never throwing a ball more than 20 yards in ESPN? Seriously there are issues with both games, not really fair to only point out one.

Hmmm...Brett Favre just completed a 45 yd bomb to Driver and guess which game...ESPN

seanmac · 06-09-2004, 11:08 AM

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Jistic said:

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spin16 said:
http://www.maddenauthority.com/Video%20C...%20Pinkston.mpg

Very, very sad.

This is only a 12-yard drop back, but still off the back foot, with McNabb, a guy of average accuracy. Unbelievable.

Is this really any worse than the CPU never throwing a ball more than 20 yards in ESPN? Seriously there are issues with both games, not really fair to only point out one.

It's much worse, because it's a problem with the game engine rather than with the AI. You have the option of playing with human players who will throw deep in ESPN and the problem is solved. There is no getting around a game engine flaw, however.

GTheorenHobbes · 06-09-2004, 11:12 AM

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seanmac said:

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Jistic said:

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spin16 said:
http://www.maddenauthority.com/Video%20C...%20Pinkston.mpg

Very, very sad.

This is only a 12-yard drop back, but still off the back foot, with McNabb, a guy of average accuracy. Unbelievable.

Is this really any worse than the CPU never throwing a ball more than 20 yards in ESPN? Seriously there are issues with both games, not really fair to only point out one.

It's much worse, because it's a problem with the game engine rather than with the AI. You have the option of playing with human players who will throw deep in ESPN and the problem is solved. There is no getting around a game engine flaw, however.

It also seems like the deep ball would be a much easier problem to solve, since it's not a game engine flaw. Last year was the first time that I can really remember anyone complaining about the lack of a cpu deep ball. (Maybe it was a problem before last year too, but I don't remember reading anything about it on these boards.) In any event, if enough people complained about it last year, I'd bet $100 VC fixed it for this year. Guess we'll have to wait and see. With Madden, though, it looks like a certainty that their problem is still there.

FSU_Animal · 06-09-2004, 11:25 AM

did you guys ever think that just because you have the ability to drop back 20 yards (which actually you can't....or at least I can't....not even with Michael Vick) doesn't mean you have to.

If you are so worried about people dropping back 20 yards and throwing to receivers that come back, why not just join a league that has a rule against it. Or.....just play Hum vs CPU. The CPU doesn't drop back 20 yards.

Personally, I don't have a problem with dropping back like 20 yards...but you know what? I don't drop back 20 yards because I want to play realistic. Just because the option is there doesn't mean you HAVE to or that people you play WILL.

Geez, you guys look for any flaw in the game and ride it the whole way trying to persuade people that the game sucks. Get over it. Nothing is or will ever be perfect. There's always going to be something wrong with the game but you deal with it and move on. Or get a life, a job, and/or a girl...or whatever

06-09-2004, 03:56 AM	#33
myownsun MVP OVR: 15 Join Date: Aug 2002	Re: 20-yard Dropback Still in 2005 Quote: *spin16 said:* I'm more concerned with the fact that he puts the ball right on his guy. Pinkston made no adjustment whatsoever. OH ok i see your point But then again thats not impossible for mcnugget to do

06-09-2004, 08:55 AM	#34
Jistic Hall Of Fame OVR: 28 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Chicago, ILL Posts: 16,404	Re: 20-yard Dropback Still in 2005 Quote: *spin16 said:* http://www.maddenauthority.com/Video%20C...%20Pinkston.mpg Very, very sad. This is only a 12-yard drop back, but still off the back foot, with McNabb, a guy of average accuracy. Unbelievable. Is this really any worse than the CPU never throwing a ball more than 20 yards in ESPN? Seriously there are issues with both games, not really fair to only point out one.

06-09-2004, 09:11 AM	#35
spin16 Rookie OVR: 5 Join Date: Jun 2003	Re: 20-yard Dropback Still in 2005 Quote: *Jistic said:* Quote: *spin16 said:* http://www.maddenauthority.com/Video%20C...%20Pinkston.mpg Very, very sad. This is only a 12-yard drop back, but still off the back foot, with McNabb, a guy of average accuracy. Unbelievable. Is this really any worse than the CPU never throwing a ball more than 20 yards in ESPN? Seriously there are issues with both games, not really fair to only point out one. Unfortunately I've never played ESPN -- don't have it on the PC.

06-09-2004, 09:23 AM	#36
jordan0386 Banned OVR: 18 Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bronx, NY	Re: 20-yard Dropback Still in 2005 what!!!!!!!!!...havent you heard espn is like

06-09-2004, 09:59 AM	#37
Motown OS Brew Connoisseur OVR: 41 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Nole Nation since...'88 Posts: 9,170 Blog Entries: 2	Re: 20-yard Dropback Still in 2005 Quote: *Jistic said:* Quote: *spin16 said:* http://www.maddenauthority.com/Video%20C...%20Pinkston.mpg Very, very sad. This is only a 12-yard drop back, but still off the back foot, with McNabb, a guy of average accuracy. Unbelievable. Is this really any worse than the CPU never throwing a ball more than 20 yards in ESPN? Seriously there are issues with both games, not really fair to only point out one. Hmmm...Brett Favre just completed a 45 yd bomb to Driver and guess which game...ESPN

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06-09-2004, 11:08 AM	#38
seanmac MVP OVR: 8 Join Date: Jul 2002	Re: 20-yard Dropback Still in 2005 Quote: *Jistic said:* Quote: *spin16 said:* http://www.maddenauthority.com/Video%20C...%20Pinkston.mpg Very, very sad. This is only a 12-yard drop back, but still off the back foot, with McNabb, a guy of average accuracy. Unbelievable. Is this really any worse than the CPU never throwing a ball more than 20 yards in ESPN? Seriously there are issues with both games, not really fair to only point out one. It's much worse, because it's a problem with the game engine rather than with the AI. You have the option of playing with human players who will throw deep in ESPN and the problem is solved. There is no getting around a game engine flaw, however.

06-09-2004, 11:12 AM	#39
GTheorenHobbes Banned OVR: 21 Join Date: Jul 2002	Re: 20-yard Dropback Still in 2005 Quote: *seanmac said:* Quote: *Jistic said:* Quote: *spin16 said:* http://www.maddenauthority.com/Video%20C...%20Pinkston.mpg Very, very sad. This is only a 12-yard drop back, but still off the back foot, with McNabb, a guy of average accuracy. Unbelievable. Is this really any worse than the CPU never throwing a ball more than 20 yards in ESPN? Seriously there are issues with both games, not really fair to only point out one. It's much worse, because it's a problem with the game engine rather than with the AI. You have the option of playing with human players who will throw deep in ESPN and the problem is solved. There is no getting around a game engine flaw, however. It also seems like the deep ball would be a much easier problem to solve, since it's not a game engine flaw. Last year was the first time that I can really remember anyone complaining about the lack of a cpu deep ball. (Maybe it was a problem before last year too, but I don't remember reading anything about it on these boards.) In any event, if enough people complained about it last year, I'd bet $100 VC fixed it for this year. Guess we'll have to wait and see. With Madden, though, it looks like a certainty that their problem is still there.

06-09-2004, 11:25 AM	#40
FSU_Animal Pro OVR: 8 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Crestview, Florida	Re: 20-yard Dropback Still in 2005 did you guys ever think that just because you have the ability to drop back 20 yards (which actually you can't....or at least I can't....not even with Michael Vick) doesn't mean you have to. If you are so worried about people dropping back 20 yards and throwing to receivers that come back, why not just join a league that has a rule against it. Or.....just play Hum vs CPU. The CPU doesn't drop back 20 yards. Personally, I don't have a problem with dropping back like 20 yards...but you know what? I don't drop back 20 yards because I want to play realistic. Just because the option is there doesn't mean you HAVE to or that people you play WILL. Geez, you guys look for any flaw in the game and ride it the whole way trying to persuade people that the game sucks. Get over it. Nothing is or will ever be perfect. There's always going to be something wrong with the game but you deal with it and move on. Or get a life, a job, and/or a girl...or whatever

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