Football4Natic's Post Patch #1 Custom Sliders

[Football4Natic]

After waiting for the patch to drop knowing that slider effectiveness was going to be tweaked, I decided to wait for the patch and start from scratch. This has taken longer then usual due to the new patch which required me to start from scratch.

The way I work the sliders is that I start on all madden default and play a few games and after a couple of games on default I make notes of things that I see need tweaking.

I then start a new set of games all in franchise mode since I believe that the cpu plays differently in franchise mode as oppose to play now.

During the next few games I start to tweak during the game whenever I see consistency in an issue. Tons of games are played in order to get the balance right.

Some things I do which I am sure some do as well but a lot do not is I always use the ask madden for offense and defense. I pick any of the 3 plays given and go from there. I look at it as me running the play that the OC calls.

Unless is something dumb like kicking a FG when I need inches then I just run one of the 3 plays given.

Please be advise that this is not required to use these sliders. That is just how I play and it does not mean you must.

I love the patch but the biggest issue gameplay wise is the easy amount of yards you can get with kick returns. I returned 3 straight kick offs for td's in the same game before half time.

It seems that the flaw is on the outside because the 2 gunners are always getting pancaked. Some tell me to let the cpu run for me which I would not do and others tell me to super sim which I also will not do. I hope that patch 2 fixes that but for now I have made the kick off coverage team a slight smidge better but what I mostly do now is return the ball down the middle. It is harder to do this and if I bust it then I know it was harder then just hitting the outside.

But you can let the cpu run for you or super sim. It is all up to how you want to handle it.

Running the ball has become way to easy after the patch so major changes needed to be made.

I am a firm believer that qb accuracy cannot be to low. When throwing an out pattern to a wide open receiver you get them to catch the ball over the shoulder or slightly behind them which makes the receiver lose momentum and it just kills any of the momentum.

at the set I have the slider at, I feel that you can accomplish simple wide open throws at the rate it would work.


I do not do sub sliders so please ask another member for that. The only sub slider I work with is the OL sub out which I have at 0 because I hate seeing offensive lineman coming out of drives.


These are for franchise mode only and not for play now. The reason is due to the fact that you can control the defensive aggresiveness of teams by choosing all 32 teams. I go back and forth on this with the default being 50. I put all teams at 10 or at times 0 because even at 10 they just blitz to much on 3rd downs which leaves the tight end wide open. See what works for you but I leave it at 0 and problem solved.











Game Options:


Play Call Style (HardCore) A must for better cpu challenge

Quarter Length (13 minutes)

Accelerated Clock (On)

Accelerated Clock Runoff (15 seconds): Gives me about 120 plays

Fatigue (58): Use your own sub sliders

Game Speed (Slow): This can be changed to very slow if you wish

Player Min Speed Threshold (44): Provides good speed difference



Penalties:

Offsides (100)

False Start (100)

Holding (53)

Face Mask (54)

Defensive Pass Inter (100)

Offensive Pass Inter (100)

KR/PR Interference (100)

Clipping (85)

Intentional Grounding (100)

Roughing the Passer (100)

Roughing the kicker (100)




Player Skill:


Passing (16) Overall

QB Accuracy (19) Lower will cause to many inaccurate passes.

Pass Blocking (13) Provides decent pocket time

WR Catching (30) Small amount of drops




Rushing (16) Overall


Broken Tackles (13) Enough to break some but not 7 man tackles

Run Blocking (16) Run game to strong after patch.

Fumbles (33) Fumbles increased after patch



Pass Defense (16) Overall


Reaction Time (0) The Human A.I defenders are to good to me.

Interceptions (0) Cuts down on tons of picks and will give you some

Pass Rushing (62) Is not about sacks. Is about pressure



Rush Defense (16) Overall


Reaction Time (0) Helps the cpu run game

Block Shedding (0) Challenges you to break blocks

Tackling (52) This will off set the cpu break tackle slider.



CPU Skill:

Passing


QB Accuracy (52) CPU throws deep more and less picks

Pass Blocking (4) To many rushed throws while hit

WR Catching (34) CPU still barely drops balls


Rushing


Broken Tackles (57) Allows the CPU to have a chance to gain yards

Run Blocking (100) This is not perfect but is the closest to help CPU

Fumbles (45) Lower will lead to many cpu fumbles.


Pass Defense


Reaction Time (47) Post Patch the cpu defense became weaker

Interceptions (0) CPU is better at picking off the qb

Pass Rushing (37) Good balance vs the human pass blocking set


Rush Defense


Reaction Time (60) Allows the CPU to react better vs the run

Block Shedding (52) Post Patch the human run blocking to good.

Tackling (48) Good balance vs power backs or small backs




Special Teams:


FG Power (49) Keeps most FG made between 45 and 52 yards

FG Accuracy (50) Back to default due to making to many kicks

Punt Power (50) Default is fine

Punt Accuracy (52) Allows for better ball placement

Kick Off Power (52) Puts ball at most times at the goal line

[biw999]

Re: Football4Natic's Post Patch #1 Custom Sliders

Going to play a game with your sliders now. Sliders look good on paper .

I'll post the stats after the game.

[biw999]

Re: Football4Natic's Post Patch #1 Custom Sliders

I only played to halftime because it's like 3:30am now. Here are the stats at halftime:

PHI (me) vs NE (cpu)


D.Mcnabb - 8/19, 208 yds, 1 td, 1 int
T.Brady - 22/33, 239 yds, 1 td

B.Westbrook - 8 carries, 20 yards, 2.5 ypc, 1 td
S.Morris - 4 carries, 29 yds, 7.2 ypc

B.Westbrook - 3 catches, 42 yds
J.Maclin - 2 catches, 81 yds, 1 td
D.Jackson - 2 catches, 50 yds
K.Curtis - 1 catch, 35 yds
W.Welker - 12 catches, 87 yds
R.Moss - 3 catches, 61 yds, 1 td
K.Faulk - 2 catches, 56 yds
J.Galloway - 2 catches, 25 yds
S.Aiken - 2 catches, 11 yds


Welker was basically unstoppable. Seemed like every other pass Brady threw was to Welker. I'm using the coaching scheme sliders from another thread, but I might have to take them off because just about every play was a 5WR or 4WR shotgun set. As you can see, they only ran the ball 4 times the entire 1st half. Again, I think this is related to the coaching philosophy sliders that I have on now (controlling all teams, blah, blah).

Aside from the Cpu never rushing, the game played extremely well. I'm going to play a few games tomorrow and post the full stats.

Halftime Score:

PHI 24 - NE 16

[Football4Natic]

Re: Football4Natic's Post Patch #1 Custom Sliders

I am assuming that you are playing pre season game right?

Well that is a high score but the Pats do pass a lot lot more then they run.

Whatever issue you see, just tweak the slider to rectify it for you.

Remember that we all have different skill sets and what works for you might not work for me or vice versa

I love low scoring games. With these sliders I get mostly low scoring games.

Keep playing and let me know what you changed.

[biw999]

Re: Football4Natic's Post Patch #1 Custom Sliders

I am assuming that you are playing pre season game right?

Well that is a high score but the Pats do pass a lot lot more then they run.

Whatever issue you see, just tweak the slider to rectify it for you.

Remember that we all have different skill sets and what works for you might not work for me or vice versa

I love low scoring games. With these sliders I get mostly low scoring games.

Keep playing and let me know what you changed.

Yeah, it was the first pre-season game of my new Browns franchise. Just wanted to test them with a decent quarterback, rather than Brady Quinn.

I'm going to start a new franchise without the coaching philosophy sliders and see if there is any difference.

Thanks man.

[nightrida0707]

Re: Football4Natic's Post Patch #1 Custom Sliders

Anyone getting alot of robo qb with these sliders?

[cquigley]

Re: Football4Natic's Post Patch #1 Custom Sliders

I'm about to try these out. I hope there isn't any robo QB. I'll let you know how things go later in the day. I won't be able to finish the game now since I have class and all.

[Football4Natic]

Re: Football4Natic's Post Patch #1 Custom Sliders

Anyone getting alot of robo qb with these sliders?

Robo qb?

There is no robo qb with these

If there was I would not be comfortable putting the human defensive awareness at 0 and qb accuracy at 52

I see a bunch of people putting that qb slider for the cpu at 15-25 and that is not the way to go

you make the cpu throw ducks and picks left and right.

Picks are not a huge issue if you put defensive awareness at 0 and cpu qb accuracy at 51 or 52

I get torched by Brady and Brees and Manning but not with 85% completion percentage. They get theirs with tons of throws

But if you want to see all qb's have low completion percetages then look elswhere because that would not be the case here

These provide great stats and realistic results for the most part of you play the game right

[nightrida0707]

Re: Football4Natic's Post Patch #1 Custom Sliders

if so damm hard running the ball with these sliders how are you running the balls with your sliders natic?

[cquigley]

Re: Football4Natic's Post Patch #1 Custom Sliders

Felt a little robo QB but not as bad as some of the other sliders.

Played the skins and Kyle orton went 10/16 with 156 yrds and a td. It was a pretty good game. Lost 7 to 6. Couldnt get anything going offensively.

I like the sliders so far. Thanks

O and I only play 8 mins quarters due to time constraints so that may throw off my stats a tad.

[cquigley]

Re: Football4Natic's Post Patch #1 Custom Sliders

I take back my previous comment. These sliders def need a little tweaking. It's impossible to run the ball on offense and the QB overthrows every other pass. I mean it is McNabb so I expect that but not this much. And there is def some robo QB cuz Romo didn't miss a pass til the fourth quarter. And he just kept scorching me the whole game. I'm not a madden slouch but this gives the CPU too much of an advantage.

[Football4Natic]

Re: Football4Natic's Post Patch #1 Custom Sliders

I take back my previous comment. These sliders def need a little tweaking. It's impossible to run the ball on offense and the QB overthrows every other pass. I mean it is McNabb so I expect that but not this much. And there is def some robo QB cuz Romo didn't miss a pass til the fourth quarter. And he just kept scorching me the whole game. I'm not a madden slouch but this gives the CPU too much of an advantage.

I have had no issue running the ball at all. At times it is to easy

As for robo qb. If i had that I would not put the sliders where they were

But if you do then tweak them to your skill set and that should help

[Football4Natic]

Re: Football4Natic's Post Patch #1 Custom Sliders

I am working on version 2 but that will not be released for a bit

But I am going to put qb accuracy at least at 22

Here is a video of Eli Manning with a simple drop back and no pressure. My receiver Steve Smith on the left side is running a comeback which is simple and nobody was near me

As Eli completes his drop back I just hit the throw button with no stick for directing the throw

His simple solid qb accuracy rating should allow me to just hit the throw button and he should hit that receiver or be right around his arms

But look at how wide and horrible this throw is with qb accuracy at lower then 22

people want to have it lower because of more incompletions but that is just not realistic

at 22 Eli hits that target which is wide open and with no defensive line pressure on Manning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I0v1lRG1CQ

[BuZzKiLLzZ]

Re: Football4Natic's Post Patch #1 Custom Sliders

Well I've still been using these.. finished season 1 with the Buffalo Bills, went 11-5 and lost in the AFC Championship game.

I only had ONE game which was decided by more than 7 points, in which I lost by 10. Every game has been a nail biter!

Running is a tad hard but my O-Line started out horrid. Averaged 3.5 a carry with Lynch and got ~950 yards and 10 TDs for the season.

So far in the next season I'm 2-0 (Signed Reggie Bush as a WR) so my passing game is fantastic with Bush, TO, and Evans. First 2 games were still close though.

And Kick Returns I just let the computer run them back.. but I do control punt returns. If I didn't, I'd score every time with Bush.

Great job on these sliders

[Young_Chaos]

Re: Football4Natic's Post Patch #1 Custom Sliders

I am working on version 2 but that will not be released for a bit

But I am going to put qb accuracy at least at 22

Here is a video of Eli Manning with a simple drop back and no pressure. My receiver Steve Smith on the left side is running a comeback which is simple and nobody was near me

As Eli completes his drop back I just hit the throw button with no stick for directing the throw

His simple solid qb accuracy rating should allow me to just hit the throw button and he should hit that receiver or be right around his arms

But look at how wide and horrible this throw is with qb accuracy at lower then 22

people want to have it lower because of more incompletions but that is just not realistic

at 22 Eli hits that target which is wide open and with no defensive line pressure on Manning.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I0v1lRG1CQ

Any ideas on when version 2 is coming out?