RINGO'S Average Starter Position Rating Slider Set

[ringo]

This is a project I've been working on and would like the communities input. I used DanSF49's team ranking sliders for many years, but this year I am doing my own set based on the average starter position ratings from the franchise mode, team management, roster break down section. My theory is that teams should play to their strengths "with a little help" from the sliders. Good QB's will be more accurate that middle of the road ones and good pass rush teams will be better than those who struggle at that. Here is how I have the breakdown by slider category to position rating so far.

Passing Sliders
QB Accuracy: QB
Pass Blocking: Offensive Tackle
WR Catching: WR

Rushing Sliders
Broken Tackles: RB
Run Blocking: Offensive Guard
Fumbles: set at 45 across the board

Defensive Passing Sliders
Reaction Time: CB
Interceptions: set at 30 across the board
Pass Rushing: OLB

Defensive Rushing Sliders
Reaction Time: DT
Block Shedding: DE
Tackling: MLB

I'm still working on slider number ranges, so its not complete yet. For passing, rushing and rush defense categories I'm looking at 50-36 and Pass Defense 70-56. I need your imput for assigning positions to the slider category.
Thanks guys.

[Agame]

Re: RINGO'S Average Starter Position Rating Slider Set

Nice thought. I did a similar concept for the sliders I'm using.
Reaction Time for rush: DT and MLB, I would use both.

Your Range looks good. Post the numbers you think will work and I will play 3 games and post results.

[ringo]

Re: RINGO'S Average Starter Position Rating Slider Set

Try the 1st game of the regular season: Vikings @ Saints


VIKINGS
Passing Sliders
QB Accuracy: 48
Pass Blocking: 46
WR Catching: 46

Rushing Sliders
Broken Tackles: 50
Run Blocking: 46
Fumbles: 45

Defensive Passing Sliders
Reaction Time: 64
Interceptions: 30
Pass Rushing: 66

Defensive Rushing Sliders
Reaction Time: 50
Block Shedding: 50
Tackling: 40


SAINTS
Passing Sliders
QB Accuracy: 50
Pass Blocking: 44
WR Catching: 48

Rushing Sliders
Broken Tackles: 42
Run Blocking: 50
Fumbles: 45

Defensive Passing Sliders
Reaction Time: 66
Interceptions: 30
Pass Rushing: 58

Defensive Rushing Sliders
Reaction Time: 46
Block Shedding: 46
Tackling: 48

Game Options
Playcall Style:Conventional
Quarter Length: 12 minutes
Accelerated clock Runoff: 15 seconds
Injuries:45
Fatigue:58
Game Speed: Slow
Speed Threshold: 45 if you like separation, 75 if you like it tighter

[Agame]

Re: RINGO'S Average Starter Position Rating Slider Set

Will try it Thurs or Friday if I get home too late Thursday night.

Will post stats
Thanks for your time and effort.

[Agame]

Re: RINGO'S Average Starter Position Rating Slider Set

Lot's of O.....but some good D.
Scored with 54 seconds left, FAILED on 2 pt conversion. LOSER.

1 2 3 4 Final
Minnesota( ME) 34 7 7 7 13 34
New OrleansCPU 36 310 14 9 36

Drew Brees Dominated the game. 22-32 389 Yds 141.2 Pass Rating, 3 Td 0 inTS.

Running game for Orleans was in the second half.

Pierre Thomas 25 Att 112 yrd 4.4 avg 1TD, 5BTK 21 yrds for LOng run.
Reggie Bush 4 Att 27 yds 6.7 avg, Long was 9 yds.

Zero Dropped passes by receivers for CPU.

Highligts for receivers,
Rec Avg yds TD
Colson 6 16.3 0
D.Henderson 5 16.0 0
L.Moore 3 20.0 2

Vikings
P.Harvin 7 28.0 2
S.Rice 3 20.3 1
A.Peterson 2 24.0 1

Rushing for Vikes A.Peterson 17 - 140 Yd 1 TD, Long 60 , 2 Fumbles(lost)

Overall the game played well, Blitz, X-zone, Man to Man, NOThing stopped the pass O tac of Drew Brees. Getting behind hurt because Vikes had to go to the Air. Running game for Vikes was fantastic.

Stats Look Good, Game played well. Let's have you Play the same two teams and Post your Stats.
Agame.

[ringo]

Re: RINGO'S Average Starter Position Rating Slider Set

My game ended 35-34 Vikings. It does seem like the defense wears down in the second half. I'll try a game with a couple of middle of the road teams to see what it looks like. Your stats were very similar to mine for that game.

[DanSF49]

Re: RINGO'S Average Starter Position Rating Slider Set

Ringo.... Team Sliders are coming... working on the ranges over the last few days.

[ringo]

Re: RINGO'S Average Starter Position Rating Slider Set

Dan!!! Long time. Look at my ranges in the first post. I'm using incraments of 2 for each of the 8 tiers of 4. If you use incraments of 4 or five the sway from one end to the other is way to much I believe. 2 gives a range of about 14 from best to worst. This game has been tough to measure so far. The key is the pass defense. If it isnt close, everybody is running Texas Tech offense.

[Agame]

Re: RINGO'S Average Starter Position Rating Slider Set

The BIG problem is the Linebackers in Zone are too slow to react to the play. If you increase Reaction Time it improves LB and Everyone Else in MAN to Man, BUT not much help on Zone plays. Shame.

Same thing for all the D......Zone make them play like their on mary jane.....very slow to get going toward their zone.

I think the only thing that will improve this is either a patch or a Ratings BOOST for LB,CB,FS and SS for zone ratings.

[ringo]

Re: RINGO'S Average Starter Position Rating Slider Set

I have noticed LB not reacting very well on runs as well. They freeze in their tracks when a RB hits the hole. I really hate to say it, but I think I'm going to have to agree on the patch thing. The look of the game it great, but playing it is a very tough thing for folks who want to get as close to the real thing as possible. I'm still playing and testing. Played Miami (me) @ Buffalo. Blew them out in the second half. Ended up 51-14. Thing was, I got an int. when I was up and a late fumble recovery, both for TD's, which could happen.

Buf QB was 20-42 for 324 yds, 2 TD's, 1 int, rating 79.8
Fred Jackson was 14-55
Marshawn Lynch was 4-12
C.J Spiller was 1-5
Lee Evans was 1-10

Miami QB was 11-19 for 238 yds, 2 TD's, 0 ints, rating 137.4
Ronnie Brown was 25-170 and 1 TD
Ricky Williams was 9-18 and 1 TD
Lousaka Polite was 1-2

DanSF49 is working on his rating grid and he usually comes up with some good stuff. I'll continue to tweak until Dan's comes out. Try his offering and if it works, then good to go. If not, I'll shelf this until they patch it and hope they get it right and play College Football until then.

[db56]

Re: RINGO'S Average Starter Position Rating Slider Set

Ringo.... Team Sliders are coming... working on the ranges over the last few days.

Cool!! looking forward to these, thanks....

[DanSF49]

Re: RINGO'S Average Starter Position Rating Slider Set

Guys I'm leaving for vacation tomorrow so it may not be until a week or two until I have them out.

[Agame]

Re: RINGO'S Average Starter Position Rating Slider Set

Guys I'm leaving for vacation tomorrow so it may not be until a week or two until I have them out.

What! Where are your priorities?
Ha

Stay safe and have FUN

[ringo]

Re: RINGO'S Average Starter Position Rating Slider Set

This is an excel spreadsheet with slider settings for each team, custom settings and 2 coach scheme options. I got some of the ideas and settings from other settings makers last year but can't remember everyone. If you need to adjust the sliders, move your range in increments of 2 up or down to your liking.