Coach Mode Sliders based on Mike32Ownz's sliders

[Cowboys63]

UPDATED 10/4/2010

First, I want to thank Mike32Ownz for giving me permission to tweak his regular sliders for us Coach Mode players. Mike is not a Coach Mode player, so he has allowed me to create a new thread for those of us that are.

Now, I do not claim to be any kind of expert, I am just someone that each year tries to find a good set of sliders so that I can have some kind of competitive games without always blowing teams out or always getting blown out, while at the same time getting fairly realistic stats.

How I originally came up with these sliders was by setting both teams to Mike's CPU offensive sliders and both to Mike's human defensive sliders. Doing this gave me really competitive games. I am continuing to monitor Mike's updates and testing newer versions of his sliders, so I will update as needed.

I want to be clear that I am not saying these are the best Coach Mode sliders, but they have worked for me and I have really enjoyed them so far.

Gamespeed-Slow
Playcall Style: Conventional or Gameflow
Quarter Length 12-15 minutes (I've been using 13 minutes)
Accellerated Clock 25 second runoff
Autostrafe ON
Auto Sprint ON
Speed Threshold 60 (Originally 68 then changed to 50 but 60 seems to work pretty well)

Penalties
Offside:100
False Start:55
Holding:52
Facemask:53
Defensive PI:86
Offensive PI:94
KR/<ACRONYM title="Page Ranking">PR</ACRONYM> Interference:100
Clipping:51
Intentional Grounding:100
Roughing the Passer:94
Roughing the Kicker:97

Auto-Sub Sliders
OUT/IN (TY TTroj52)
QB:45/50
RB:80/83
WR:77/82
FB/TE:71/76
OL:22/27
DT:79/84
DE:79/84
LB:65/70
CB:60/66
S:47/52


Pre Patch 1.00

PASSING Hum/CPU
QB Accuracy 52/52
Pass Blocking 39/39
WR Catching 50/50

RUNNING
Broken Tackles 35/35
Run Blocking 48/48
Fumbles 85/85

PASS DEFENSE
Reaction Time 30/30 (Couldn't decide between 26 and 34 so met in middle)
Interceptions 35/35
Pass Rushing 41/41

RUSH DEFENSE
Reaction Time 10/10
Block Shedding 35/35
Tackling 50/50

Special Teams
FG Power:10
FG Accuracy:55
Punt Power:56
Punt Accuracy:100
Kickoff Power:19


Post Patch #1.03

Gamespeed-Slow
Playcall Style: Conventional or Gameflow
Quarter Length 12-15 minutes (I've been using 13 minutes)
Accellerated Clock 25 second runoff
Autostrafe ON
Auto Sprint ON
Speed Threshold 55

Penalties
Offside:100
False Start:55
Holding:52
Facemask:53
Defensive PI:86
Offensive PI:94
KR/<ACRONYM title="Page Ranking">PR</ACRONYM> Interference:100
Clipping:51
Intentional Grounding:100
Roughing the Passer:94
Roughing the Kicker:97

Auto-Sub Sliders
OUT/IN (TY TTroj52)
QB:45/50
RB:80/83
WR:77/82
FB/TE:71/76
OL:22/27
DT:79/84
DE:79/84
LB:65/70
CB:60/66
S:47/52


PASSING Hum/CPU
QB Accuracy 66/66
Pass Blocking 58/58
WR Catching 45/45

RUNNING
Broken Tackles 30/30
Run Blocking 47/47
Fumbles 65/65

PASS DEFENSE
Reaction Time 36/36
Interceptions 0/0
Pass Rushing 45/45

RUSH DEFENSE
Reaction Time 7/7
Block Shedding 25/25
Tackling 45/45


Special Teams
FG Power:17
FG Accuracy:55
Punt Power:50
Punt Accuracy:50
Kickoff Power:44

Anyone that wants to test these out and post results, feel free. I honestly, don't have time to post all the stats from my games, but I am interested to see how these do for others. Also, I'll check in once or twice a day but will not be online constantly so be patient if you are wanting a response. Thanks!

[sascgs]

Re: Coach Mode Sliders based on Mike32Ownz's sliders

Thanks for posting these!! I will try them out.

[Elway7]

Re: Coach Mode Sliders based on Mike32Ownz's sliders

I tried these last night, because I'm totally down with coaching. The only thing I had trouble with, is the players breaking tackles. This might need to be lowered, just a few notches, or the tackling upped a few, in my opinion. It did have a very good feel to the game. Running was effective.

Thanks for posting these. I posted my own set and it has it's flaws. Like you, I'm also looking to improve. At least we have some options out there, for us coaching fanatics.

[Mike32Ownz]

Re: Coach Mode Sliders based on Mike32Ownz's sliders

^^^^Mad Props man good luck with this set.

[Cowboys63]

Re: Coach Mode Sliders based on Mike32Ownz's sliders

Here is a set I've experimented with tonight. Played two games as Cowboys against the Saints. Lost the first 7-13 and won the second 35-10. Just got better offensive production in second game and got a cheap TD when Saints went for it with 5:47 left in 4th qtr on own 8 and Barber scored on run.

Again, these are based off of the latest set of Mike32Ownz. See what you think. Not ready to update front page just yet, want your feedback.

PASSING Hum/CPU
QB Accuracy 52/52
Pass Blocking 39/39
WR Catching 50/50

RUNNING
Broken Tackles 30/30**
Run Blocking 48/48**
Fumbles 85/85

PASS DEFENSE
Reaction Time 26/26**
Interceptions 35/35
Pass Rushing 41/41

RUSH DEFENSE
Reaction Time 10/10**
Block Shedding 35/35**
Tackling 50/50

[Cowboys63]

Re: Coach Mode Sliders based on Mike32Ownz's sliders

Forgot to mention that all other settings are the same.

[Cowboys63]

Re: Coach Mode Sliders based on Mike32Ownz's sliders

Elway7, Thanks for the advice. The set I tested last last night does reduce the broken tackles, but maybe too much. I will probably tweak them again (35 for broken tackles) and report findings.

Looks like there are several of us with CM sliders now, so between us all we should have a really good set by the Week 1 roster update which is when I will start my "official" franchise.

All the best!

[Cowboys63]

Re: Coach Mode Sliders based on Mike32Ownz's sliders

Mike32ownz, Thanks for the support! It's really appreciated.

[Elway7]

Re: Coach Mode Sliders based on Mike32Ownz's sliders

Just played a game tonight with your current version of sliders, but...... I set the Broken Tackles slider to 37.

Steelers (Me) 41
Bills (Com) 14 Final

Roethlisberger- 16-27 / 283 yards
Mendenhall- 33 car. / 154 yards / 3 TD's (59 long)
DEFENSE- 4 sacks total

Bills, nothing worth mentioning. It was just a good team crushing a crappy team.

I think the slider setting for INT's, should be set to a lower number. Like around 10 perhaps??? In my slider set, the lower the number, the more realistic the INT's seemed to be. That was my mistake the first time around. The higher the number in the sub categories the harder it becomes. I think????
All in all, Sack totals seemed realistic, passing and even running for the most part. Interceptions were the only thing missing, for both teams.

I think you're close to a great COACHING slider set my friend. I'll play more and get back with ya.

[Cowboys63]

Re: Coach Mode Sliders based on Mike32Ownz's sliders

I have updated the first post. Changes are based on Mike32Ownz latest update and goes along with the suggestion of Elway7 of lowering the Broken Tackles a few notches.

I have only played one game with these with the Cowboys beating the Saints 34-24. Stats were realistic with Romo passing for 298 yards, Brees for over 320 with 66% completion pct. Barber had 25 carries for 125yds, Jones ran for 36 yards on 9 carries. Each team had 2 to 3 sacks.

There were big plays but only a few and the game was clinched on an int on the Cowboys 1 yard line with 1:50 left.

How fast you call plays should determine how many minutes to set your quarters, but if you use gameflow, I would suggest 13 minute quarters. If you call your own plays and the clock normally runs down to just a few seconds then you may be able to go with 15 min qtrs.

[Cowboys63]

Re: Coach Mode Sliders based on Mike32Ownz's sliders

Just played a game tonight with your current version of sliders, but...... I set the Broken Tackles slider to 37.

Steelers (Me) 41
Bills (Com) 14 Final

Roethlisberger- 16-27 / 283 yards
Mendenhall- 33 car. / 154 yards / 3 TD's (59 long)
DEFENSE- 4 sacks total

Bills, nothing worth mentioning. It was just a good team crushing a crappy team.

I think the slider setting for INT's, should be set to a lower number. Like around 10 perhaps??? In my slider set, the lower the number, the more realistic the INT's seemed to be. That was my mistake the first time around. The higher the number in the sub categories the harder it becomes. I think????
All in all, Sack totals seemed realistic, passing and even running for the most part. Interceptions were the only thing missing, for both teams.

I think you're close to a great COACHING slider set my friend. I'll play more and get back with ya.

Thanks! I guess that I was typing my last post about the time you were posting this so I had not seen what you had to say about the interceptions. So far, I haven't had many at 35 but I will monitor that going forward and let me know what you find. I appreciate and need all the input that I can get. The number of games that I can play is limited so the more we all can test the better.

[Elway7]

Re: Coach Mode Sliders based on Mike32Ownz's sliders

Thanks! I guess that I was typing my last post about the time you were posting this so I had not seen what you had to say about the interceptions. So far, I haven't had many at 35 but I will monitor that going forward and let me know what you find. I appreciate and need all the input that I can get. The number of games that I can play is limited so the more we all can test the better.

I'll keep you posted. I only get to play like a game or two every night, myself.

[Mike32Ownz]

Re: Coach Mode Sliders based on Mike32Ownz's sliders

After so many years of madden I never actually bothered to ask. What is coach mode? lol I always got it confused with CPU vs CPU

[Cowboys63]

Re: Coach Mode Sliders based on Mike32Ownz's sliders

After so many years of madden I never actually bothered to ask. What is coach mode? lol I always got it confused with CPU vs CPU

Mike,
It's just where you play as one team, but you just call the plays, snap the ball and let them play out without controlling the players in any way. It's like a simulation game where how good or bad you might be with the sticks has no effect on the outcome. That's it in a nutshell.

Oops, I just read your post again and realized that was probably more of a retorical question and that you had probably figured it out already. lol. It is fun, as is playing which I do that as well. But honestly, I'm not too good.

[gamertom]

Re: Coach Mode Sliders based on Mike32Ownz's sliders

UPDATED 8/24/2010


PASSING Hum/CPU
QB Accuracy 52/52
Pass Blocking 39/39
WR Catching 50/50

RUNNING
Broken Tackles 35/35
Run Blocking 48/48
Fumbles 85/85

PASS DEFENSE
Reaction Time 26/26
Interceptions 35/35
Pass Rushing 41/41

RUSH DEFENSE
Reaction Time 10/10
Block Shedding 35/35
Tackling 50/50
Special Teams
FG Power:10
FG Accuracy:55
Punt Power:56
Punt Accuracy:100
Kickoff Power:19

I have not tried this, so I guess I am going to have to but, I was wondering how this plays out, it would seem like you must get a lot of fumbles (like one or more per qtr), a lot broken tackles, and suction blocks in addition to high running gains. Also would seem like the cpu would run better then you. I enjoy coach mode myself, but understanding the purpose of each slider it seems that the sliders are too high. Again everyone plays to there own liking and I am not knocking these sliders as I have not even played it with this set, but I just wonder if they are a little too high for the passing and running game.