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  • jd369
    Banned
    • Sep 2008
    • 1341

    #1

    what difficulty level does CUSTOM sliders play on?

    I was playing all pro, but I want to adjust a few sliders, apparently this isnt an option, does it play on rookie if you just adjust one slider?
  • JT30
    MVP
    • Jul 2004
    • 2123

    #2
    Re: what difficulty level does CUSTOM sliders play on?

    Custom is an independent skill level.

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    • Jarodd21
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      • Dec 2010
      • 10556

      #3
      Re: what difficulty level does CUSTOM sliders play on?

      No.. If you keep each USER total category inbetween 76-150 its all-pro. If you keep each USER total category at 75 or lower its All-Madden. For example.

      This is default All-Madden passing.
      Accuracy 25
      pass blocking 25
      Catching 25
      25+25+25=75. All-Madden

      This is a custom All-Madden setting
      Accuracy 15
      Pass Blocking 15
      Catching 45
      15+15+45=75 Custom All-Madden

      This is default All-Pro
      Accuracy-50
      Pass Blocking-50
      catching- 50
      50+50+50=150 All-Pro

      This is Custom All-Pro
      Accuracy-45
      Pass Blocking-60
      Catching- 45
      45+45+60=150 Custom All-Pro

      When you go to Custom you just have to keep each total category at that certain skill level range your wanna play on. All-Pro is 76-150 and All-Madden is 75 or lower.. All your doing is customizing the skill level whether its All-Pro or All-Madden. Thats what Custom is..
      Last edited by Jarodd21; 09-04-2011, 02:15 PM.
      https://forums.operationsports.com/f...n-sliders.html

      PSN: Jarodd21

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      • JT30
        MVP
        • Jul 2004
        • 2123

        #4
        Re: what difficulty level does CUSTOM sliders play on?

        I am not sure why you are trying to describe this in some sort of complicated, scientific way?

        Pro is 75 across the board for user
        All Pro is 50 across the board for user
        All Madden is 25 across the board for user
        Custom is anything that doesnt follow the above

        Very simple. Custom is it's own skill level.

        No need to over complicate things

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        • jd369
          Banned
          • Sep 2008
          • 1341

          #5
          Re: what difficulty level does CUSTOM sliders play on?

          why does the kick meter speed change then? so far the only thing I have done is raise run blocking to 55.

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          • Jarodd21
            Hall Of Fame
            • Dec 2010
            • 10556

            #6
            Re: what difficulty level does CUSTOM sliders play on?

            Originally posted by JT30
            I am not sure why you are trying to describe this in some sort of complicated, scientific way?

            Pro is 75 across the board for user
            All Pro is 50 across the board for user
            All Madden is 25 across the board for user
            Custom is anything that doesnt follow the above

            Very simple. Custom is it's own skill level.

            No need to over complicate things
            Custom is not its own skill level.. Its for customizing each skill level. Pro, All-Pro, and All-Madden and you have to keep each of the total categories in those ranges to have it on those skill levels. On custom the kicking meter will still go fast just like it does on Default All-Madden if you keep each of the categories at 75 or lower. If you put any of the categories at 76-150 the kicking meter will go slower just like it does on All-Pro. I broke it down in terms for anybody to understand and I was answering the OPs question. It wasn't to prove anything to you. Obviously you didn't know thats how custom sliders work..
            https://forums.operationsports.com/f...n-sliders.html

            PSN: Jarodd21

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            • Jd_Seven
              Rookie
              • Aug 2005
              • 481

              #7
              Re: what difficulty level does CUSTOM sliders play on?

              Originally posted by Jarodd21
              No.. If you keep each USER total category inbetween 76-150 its all-pro. If you keep each USER total category at 75 or lower its All-Madden. For example.

              This is default All-Madden passing.

              Accuracy 25
              pass blocking 25
              Catching 25
              25+25+25=75. All-Madden

              This is a custom All-Madden setting

              Accuracy 15
              Pass Blocking 15
              Catching 45
              15+15+45=75 Custom All-Madden

              This is default All-Pro

              Accuracy-50
              Pass Blocking-50
              catching- 50
              50+50+50=150 All-Pro

              This is default All-Pro

              Accuracy-45
              Pass Blocking-60
              Catching- 45
              45+45+60=150 Custom All-Pro

              When you go to Custom you just have to keep each total category at that certain skill level range your wanna play on. All-Pro is 76-150 and All-Madden is 75 or lower.. All your doing is customizing the skill level whether its All-Pro or All-Madden. Thats what Custom is..
              I was curious about this, I am pretty sure its just a custom level of difficulty relating to how well you play on the sticks and the overal experience you have with a certain slider set.

              I mean, if you put the slider setting on All-Madden the CPU slider settings all relatively go up to 100, most of them anyway, to make the CPU AI more difficult. So then in this theory of + the category of each slider for HUM setting, should correspond to the CPU's, if you wanted to keep it at the All-Madden level, you would have to keep the CPU slider set at what All-Madden setting expects it to be and still somehow keep the HUM slider below the 75 as you say it should be. So if you lower the CPU settings quite low compared to what they are on default All-Madden, would you be going back to All-Pro for the CPU?

              So its all and well to make slider changes, but in the end a custom slider setting is a custom difficulty relative to the user.
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              • Jarodd21
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                • Dec 2010
                • 10556

                #8
                Re: what difficulty level does CUSTOM sliders play on?

                Originally posted by jd369
                why does the kick meter speed change then? so far the only thing I have done is raise run blocking to 55.
                Because you went over 150 and put the game on Pro. If you raise one thing like run blocking you have to lower another like break tackles to compensate it and keep the game at All-Pro.. Pro is 151-225 for each category and you moved the USER rushing up to 155 when you bumped the runblocking up 5..
                https://forums.operationsports.com/f...n-sliders.html

                PSN: Jarodd21

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                • Jd_Seven
                  Rookie
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 481

                  #9
                  Re: what difficulty level does CUSTOM sliders play on?

                  Originally posted by JT30
                  I am not sure why you are trying to describe this in some sort of complicated, scientific way?

                  Pro is 75 across the board for user
                  All Pro is 50 across the board for user
                  All Madden is 25 across the board for user
                  Custom is anything that doesnt follow the above

                  Very simple. Custom is it's own skill level.

                  No need to over complicate things
                  Nice, easy enough.
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                  • Jarodd21
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 10556

                    #10
                    Re: what difficulty level does CUSTOM sliders play on?

                    Originally posted by Jd_Seven
                    I was curious about this, I am pretty sure its just a custom level of difficulty relating to how well you play on the sticks and the overal experience you have with a certain slider set.

                    I mean, if you put the slider setting on All-Madden the CPU slider settings all relatively go up to 100, most of them anyway, to make the CPU AI more difficult. So then in this theory of + the category of each slider for HUM setting, should correspond to the CPU's, if you wanted to keep it at the All-Madden level, you would have to keep the CPU slider set at what All-Madden setting expects it to be and still somehow keep the HUM slider below the 75 as you say it should be. So if you lower the CPU settings quite low compared to what they are on default All-Madden, would you be going back to All-Pro for the CPU?

                    So its all and well to make slider changes, but in the end a custom slider setting is a custom difficulty relative to the user.

                    The USER slider determines the difficulty of the AI. It doesn't matter which way you go with the CPU sliders. You pick which level you wanna to play on and adjust the CPU sliders from there. Its weird but thats how it works. The kicking meter changes and everything.
                    https://forums.operationsports.com/f...n-sliders.html

                    PSN: Jarodd21

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                    • Jd_Seven
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 481

                      #11
                      Re: what difficulty level does CUSTOM sliders play on?

                      The USER slider settings determines the assist the CPU gives to the user. I have gone on this for a long time, and done countless testing.

                      The higher the slider setting for the HUM the more assist the CPU will give you. It makes sense, if you put the HUM run blocking up high, the run blocking will be good. Thats why the counter measure to its success will be the CPU block shedding/tackling sliders etc.

                      Understand what I am saying, again this is just what I have gone and the theory works out well, IMO.
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                      • KBLover
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                        • Aug 2009
                        • 12172

                        #12
                        Re: what difficulty level does CUSTOM sliders play on?

                        Originally posted by Jd_Seven
                        I mean, if you put the slider setting on All-Madden the CPU slider settings all relatively go up to 100, most of them anyway, to make the CPU AI more difficult. So then in this theory of + the category of each slider for HUM setting, should correspond to the CPU's, if you wanted to keep it at the All-Madden level, you would have to keep the CPU slider set at what All-Madden setting expects it to be and still somehow keep the HUM slider below the 75 as you say it should be. So if you lower the CPU settings quite low compared to what they are on default All-Madden, would you be going back to All-Pro for the CPU?
                        That's because it puts the AI on Rookie level (i.e. very easy for the AI to do stuff) while putting the User on All-Madden (very hard to do stuff). To "create challenge".

                        Putting both AI and User on the same very low is putting both sides on All-Madden (hard for both sides to do stuff).

                        Basically, his formula show you how to do something like put the User on some flavor of All-Madden (allowing to help areas you struggle with at the expense of something else) and the AI on some flavor of, say, All-Pro.


                        All-Pro for the AI would be 50 (on average) in each group of three. 40-30-80, 50-40-60, etc.

                        Of course it would be low compared to default All-Madden. If default All-Madden puts the AI at straight 100, that's basically making it as easy as possible for the AI to succeed, a la Rookie level.
                        Last edited by KBLover; 09-04-2011, 05:33 PM.
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                        • flylikedaeagles
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 2

                          #13
                          Re: what difficulty level does CUSTOM sliders play on?

                          this helped me a lot. i understand sliders a lot more now. thank u

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                          • Jd_Seven
                            Rookie
                            • Aug 2005
                            • 481

                            #14
                            Re: what difficulty level does CUSTOM sliders play on?

                            Originally posted by Jarodd21
                            The USER slider determines the difficulty of the AI. It doesn't matter which way you go with the CPU sliders. You pick which level you wanna to play on and adjust the CPU sliders from there. Its weird but thats how it works. The kicking meter changes and everything.
                            A slider at 100 for the CPU gives them the best advantage. If you are playing at HUM pass @ 10, and CPU pass reaction is at 100, then that will give the CPU the maximum amount towards that category. So if you start to lower the CPU slider, it will make it easier for the USER, not the CPU.

                            CPU slider at 0 - easiest (rookie for HUM), CPU slider at 100 - toughest (all-madden for HUM)

                            Doesn't matter which way you want to put it, having the CPU slider at 100 is the maximum assist they can have towards that category. Same as if you put the HUM pass slider at 100, the CPU AI will assist you 90 times more than it would be at 10, thus making it much easier to throw, practically perfect, because the AI assist and will generate the most accurate velocity, direction etc for the pass.

                            The engine im sure is coded to work the same as FIFA does with say with passing, semi-assisted, auto, and full manual. 0 for HUM passing would be "full-manual" in a sense and 100 would be "auto". So, having the CPU at highest category would be them playing at all-madden against the USER, giving the CPU settings what would be rookie for the HUM USER.
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                            • Jarodd21
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                              • Dec 2010
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                              #15
                              Re: what difficulty level does CUSTOM sliders play on?

                              JD the USER slider determines the difficulty of the sliders. Test my theory Lower your current USER sliders to 75 for each USER category and watch how fast the kicking meter goes. On your current sliders the kicking meter goes slow because you have the USER sliders too high for each category which gives the AI an All-Pro feel which would make the game too easy for a player like me no matter how high you put the CPU sliders.. Any All-madden set(each total USER category at 75 or lower) will be tougher then your sliders because of the difference in AI. Your sliders are All-Pro sliders because of how high you have the USER total. This theory was tested out by a lot of us. The slow kicking meter you're playing with is the proof. Put each of you're USER categories at 75 and watch the kicking meter speed up just like it does on default All-Madden. USER category determines what kind of AI you get from the CPU you're playing against..
                              https://forums.operationsports.com/f...n-sliders.html

                              PSN: Jarodd21

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