Pro could be the way to go

**bukktown** · 09-14-2012, 11:25 PM

Re: Pro could be the way to go

I actually started experimenting with PRO last night on a hunch but I put all user sliders at zero and all CPU sliders at 100 just to see what it played like at the extremes. I got mollywopped.

**mooch49** · 09-14-2012, 11:52 PM

AP running all over me. He's got about 160 with 1 quarter to play. The CPU can definitely run the ball in CCM with the right settings. It just doesn't look as pretty as play now......And the Vikings mainly are running, unlike the lions who mostly threw my last game. A good sign pro could be the way to go

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**SteelCityChamp** · 09-15-2012, 03:13 AM

Re: Pro could be the way to go

mooch49 - I used your Pro settings & it was awesome. I played as the Steelers at home against the Bills. Check these stats out:

<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="6">Buffalo Bills at Pittsburgh Steelers</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Sep 15, 2012</td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Buffalo Bills (N/A)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right" class="active">10</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Pittsburgh Steelers (N/A)</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right" class="active">17</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%"></td><td align="center" width="20%">BUF</td><td align="center" width="20%">PIT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">404</td><td align="center">312</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">140</td><td align="center">81</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">264</td><td align="center">231</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">21</td><td align="center">11</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">15</td><td align="center">21</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">93</td><td align="center">65</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">512</td><td align="center">398</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">1 (0)</td><td align="center">1 (0)</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">7-16 (43%)</td><td align="center">7-17 (41%)</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">0-1 (0%)</td><td align="center">1-1 (100%)</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0 (0%)</td><td align="center">0-0 (0%)</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">1/1</td><td align="center">1/1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">5-25</td><td align="center">1-10</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">34:49</td><td align="center">25:11</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="4">Scoring Summary</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">FIRST QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">BUF</td><td align="right" width="10%">PIT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">11:16</td><td width="70%">(PIT) M.Wallace 94 Yd pass from B.Roethlisberger(S.Suisham kick)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">7</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">SECOND QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">BUF</td><td align="right" width="10%">PIT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">6:59</td><td width="70%">(PIT) M.Wallace 11 Yd pass from B.Roethlisberger(S.Suisham kick)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">14</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">THIRD QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">BUF</td><td align="right" width="10%">PIT</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">5:24</td><td width="70%">(BUF) R.Lindell, 20 Yd FG</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">14</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">FOURTH QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">BUF</td><td align="right" width="10%">PIT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">5:43</td><td width="70%">(PIT) S.Suisham, 19 Yd FG</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">17</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">2:47</td><td width="70%">(BUF) D.Nelson 8 Yd pass from R.Fitzpatrick(R.Lindell kick)</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">17</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" class="spacer" style="margin:0 auto;" width="575"><tr><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#0F4589" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Buffalo Bills</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Ryan Fitzpatrick</td><td align="right">21/38</td><td align="right">297</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>C.J. Spiller</td><td align="right">22</td><td align="right">132</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Tashard Choice</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">0.8</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Fred Jackson</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">5.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Donald Jones</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">-3</td><td align="right">-3.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Ryan Fitzpatrick</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Donald Jones</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">69</td><td align="right">13.8</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Stevie Johnson</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">41</td><td align="right">13.6</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Scott Chandler</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">70</td><td align="right">23.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>C.J. Spiller</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">34</td><td align="right">17.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Ruvell Martin</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right">19.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Brad Smith</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">17</td><td align="right">8.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Corey McIntyre</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">-1</td><td align="right">-1.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>David Nelson</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right">8.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>T.J. Graham</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">17</td><td align="right">17.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Lee Smith</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">4.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">BLOCKING</td><td align="right" colspan="2" width="32%">PANCAKE</td><td align="right" colspan="2" width="32%">SACK</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Chris Hairston</td><td align="right" colspan="2">1</td><td align="right" colspan="2">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Andy Levitre</td><td align="right" colspan="2">1</td><td align="right" colspan="2">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Eric Wood</td><td align="right" colspan="2">0</td><td align="right" colspan="2">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Erik Pears</td><td align="right" colspan="2">0</td><td align="right" colspan="2">2</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">DEFENSE</td><td align="right" width="16%">TACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">SACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Kelvin Sheppard</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>George Wilson</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Nick Barnett</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Kyle Williams</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Marcell Dareus</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Delano Howell</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Mario Williams</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Alex Carrington</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Jairus Byrd</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Aaron Williams</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Leodis McKelvin</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Terrence McGee</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">2.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Mark Anderson</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Chris Kelsay</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Chris White</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICKING</td><td align="right" width="16%">FG</td><td align="right" width="16%">XP</td><td align="right" width="16%">PTS</td><td align="right" width="16%">LONG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Rian Lindell</td><td align="right">1/2</td><td align="right">1/1</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">20</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PUNTING</td><td align="right" width="16%">NO</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">IN20</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Brian Moorman</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">206</td><td align="right">41.2</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICK RETURN</td><td align="right" width="16%">RET</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Leodis McKelvin</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">71</td><td align="right">23.6</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Justin Rogers</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">22</td><td align="right">22.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PUNT RETURN</td><td align="right" width="16%">RET</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Leodis McKelvin</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">15</td><td align="right">7.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></table></td><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#000000" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Pittsburgh Steelers</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Ben Roethlisberger</td><td align="right">13/28</td><td align="right">246</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Rashard Mendenhall</td><td align="right">23</td><td align="right">73</td><td align="right">3.1</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Isaac Redman</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Mike Wallace</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">4.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Mike Wallace</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">137</td><td align="right">27.4</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Rashard Mendenhall</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">22</td><td align="right">11.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Jerricho Cotchery</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">20</td><td align="right">10.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Heath Miller</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">29</td><td align="right">14.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Toney Clemons</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">26</td><td align="right">26.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Antonio Brown</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">12.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">BLOCKING</td><td align="right" colspan="2" width="32%">PANCAKE</td><td align="right" colspan="2" width="32%">SACK</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Ramon Foster</td><td align="right" colspan="2">4</td><td align="right" colspan="2">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Max Starks</td><td align="right" colspan="2">3</td><td align="right" colspan="2">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Will Johnson</td><td align="right" colspan="2">1</td><td align="right" colspan="2">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Maurkice Pouncey</td><td align="right" colspan="2">1</td><td align="right" colspan="2">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Marcus Gilbert</td><td align="right" colspan="2">0</td><td align="right" colspan="2">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">DEFENSE</td><td align="right" width="16%">TACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">SACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Larry Foote</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>LaMarr Woodley</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">2.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Lawrence Timmons</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Troy Polamalu</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Ryan Clark</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Ike Taylor</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Curtis Brown</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Casey Hampton</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">2.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Will Allen</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Keenan Lewis</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Ziggy Hood</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Jason Worilds</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>James Harrison</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICKING</td><td align="right" width="16%">FG</td><td align="right" width="16%">XP</td><td align="right" width="16%">PTS</td><td align="right" width="16%">LONG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Shaun Suisham</td><td align="right">1/1</td><td align="right">2/2</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">19</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PUNTING</td><td align="right" width="16%">NO</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">IN20</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Drew Butler</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">296</td><td align="right">49.3</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICK RETURN</td><td align="right" width="16%">RET</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Emmanuel Sanders</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">43</td><td align="right">21.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Chris Rainey</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">22</td><td align="right">22.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PUNT RETURN</td><td align="right" width="16%">RET</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Chris Rainey</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">21</td><td align="right">10.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>

I think I will be sticking with these. I only used Gameflow with an occasional audible where needed & this was a Play Now game.

**RajonRondo** · 09-15-2012, 03:36 AM

Re: Pro could be the way to go

Originally posted by SteelCityChamp

mooch49 - I used your Pro settings & it was awesome. I played as the Steelers at home against the Bills. Check these stats out:

<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" /><link href="http://dynasties.operationsports.com/css/osdyn.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"></head><body><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td align="center" colspan="6">Buffalo Bills at Pittsburgh Steelers</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="48%">Sep 15, 2012</td><td align="right" width="10%">1ST</td><td align="right" width="10%">2ND</td><td align="right" width="10%">3RD</td><td align="right" width="10%">4TH</td><td align="right" width="12%">SCORE</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Buffalo Bills (N/A)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right" class="active">10</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Pittsburgh Steelers (N/A)</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right" class="active">17</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="3">Team Stats Comparison</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="60%"></td><td align="center" width="20%">BUF</td><td align="center" width="20%">PIT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Offense</td><td align="center">404</td><td align="center">312</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Rushing Yards</td><td align="center">140</td><td align="center">81</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Passing Yards</td><td align="center">264</td><td align="center">231</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">First Downs</td><td align="center">21</td><td align="center">11</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Punt Return Yards</td><td align="center">15</td><td align="center">21</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Kick Return Yards</td><td align="center">93</td><td align="center">65</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Total Yards</td><td align="center">512</td><td align="center">398</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Turnovers</td><td align="center">1 (0)</td><td align="center">1 (0)</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">3rd Down Converstion</td><td align="center">7-16 (43%)</td><td align="center">7-17 (41%)</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">4th Down Conversion</td><td align="center">0-1 (0%)</td><td align="center">1-1 (100%)</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">2-Point Conversion</td><td align="center">0-0 (0%)</td><td align="center">0-0 (0%)</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Red Zone Touchdowns/Field Goals</td><td align="center">1/1</td><td align="center">1/1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center">Penalties</td><td align="center">5-25</td><td align="center">1-10</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center">Posession Time</td><td align="center">34:49</td><td align="center">25:11</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="575"><tr class="masthead"><td colspan="4">Scoring Summary</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">FIRST QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">BUF</td><td align="right" width="10%">PIT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">11:16</td><td width="70%">(PIT) M.Wallace 94 Yd pass from B.Roethlisberger(S.Suisham kick)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">7</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">SECOND QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">BUF</td><td align="right" width="10%">PIT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">6:59</td><td width="70%">(PIT) M.Wallace 11 Yd pass from B.Roethlisberger(S.Suisham kick)</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">14</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">THIRD QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">BUF</td><td align="right" width="10%">PIT</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">5:24</td><td width="70%">(BUF) R.Lindell, 20 Yd FG</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">14</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td colspan="2">FOURTH QUARTER SCORING</td><td align="right" width="10%">BUF</td><td align="right" width="10%">PIT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td align="center" width="10%">5:43</td><td width="70%">(PIT) S.Suisham, 19 Yd FG</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">17</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td align="center" width="10%">2:47</td><td width="70%">(BUF) D.Nelson 8 Yd pass from R.Fitzpatrick(R.Lindell kick)</td><td align="right">10</td><td align="right">17</td></tr></table><table cellpadding="1" cellspacing="0" class="spacer" style="margin:0 auto;" width="575"><tr><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#0F4589" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Buffalo Bills</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Ryan Fitzpatrick</td><td align="right">21/38</td><td align="right">297</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>C.J. Spiller</td><td align="right">22</td><td align="right">132</td><td align="right">6.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Tashard Choice</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">0.8</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Fred Jackson</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">5.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Donald Jones</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">-3</td><td align="right">-3.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Ryan Fitzpatrick</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Donald Jones</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">69</td><td align="right">13.8</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Stevie Johnson</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">41</td><td align="right">13.6</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Scott Chandler</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">70</td><td align="right">23.3</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>C.J. Spiller</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">34</td><td align="right">17.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Ruvell Martin</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">38</td><td align="right">19.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Brad Smith</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">17</td><td align="right">8.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Corey McIntyre</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">-1</td><td align="right">-1.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>David Nelson</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">8</td><td align="right">8.0</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>T.J. Graham</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">17</td><td align="right">17.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Lee Smith</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">4.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">BLOCKING</td><td align="right" colspan="2" width="32%">PANCAKE</td><td align="right" colspan="2" width="32%">SACK</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Chris Hairston</td><td align="right" colspan="2">1</td><td align="right" colspan="2">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Andy Levitre</td><td align="right" colspan="2">1</td><td align="right" colspan="2">1</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Eric Wood</td><td align="right" colspan="2">0</td><td align="right" colspan="2">1</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Erik Pears</td><td align="right" colspan="2">0</td><td align="right" colspan="2">2</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">DEFENSE</td><td align="right" width="16%">TACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">SACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Kelvin Sheppard</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>George Wilson</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Nick Barnett</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Kyle Williams</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Marcell Dareus</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Delano Howell</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Mario Williams</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Alex Carrington</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Jairus Byrd</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Aaron Williams</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Leodis McKelvin</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Terrence McGee</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">2.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Mark Anderson</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Chris Kelsay</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Chris White</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICKING</td><td align="right" width="16%">FG</td><td align="right" width="16%">XP</td><td align="right" width="16%">PTS</td><td align="right" width="16%">LONG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Rian Lindell</td><td align="right">1/2</td><td align="right">1/1</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">20</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PUNTING</td><td align="right" width="16%">NO</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">IN20</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Brian Moorman</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">206</td><td align="right">41.2</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICK RETURN</td><td align="right" width="16%">RET</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Leodis McKelvin</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">71</td><td align="right">23.6</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Justin Rogers</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">22</td><td align="right">22.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PUNT RETURN</td><td align="right" width="16%">RET</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Leodis McKelvin</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">15</td><td align="right">7.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></table></td><td align="center" valign="top" width="50%"><table cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" class="osdyn spacer" width="100%"><tr class="masthead_alt"><td bgcolor="#000000" colspan="5"><span style="color:#FFFFFF;">Pittsburgh Steelers</span></td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PASSING</td><td align="right" width="16%">C/A</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Ben Roethlisberger</td><td align="right">13/28</td><td align="right">246</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RUSHING</td><td align="right" width="16%">ATT</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Rashard Mendenhall</td><td align="right">23</td><td align="right">73</td><td align="right">3.1</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Isaac Redman</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Mike Wallace</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">4.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">RECEIVING</td><td align="right" width="16%">REC</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Mike Wallace</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">137</td><td align="right">27.4</td><td align="right">2</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Rashard Mendenhall</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">22</td><td align="right">11.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Jerricho Cotchery</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">20</td><td align="right">10.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Heath Miller</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">29</td><td align="right">14.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Toney Clemons</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">26</td><td align="right">26.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Antonio Brown</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">12</td><td align="right">12.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">BLOCKING</td><td align="right" colspan="2" width="32%">PANCAKE</td><td align="right" colspan="2" width="32%">SACK</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Ramon Foster</td><td align="right" colspan="2">4</td><td align="right" colspan="2">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Max Starks</td><td align="right" colspan="2">3</td><td align="right" colspan="2">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Will Johnson</td><td align="right" colspan="2">1</td><td align="right" colspan="2">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Maurkice Pouncey</td><td align="right" colspan="2">1</td><td align="right" colspan="2">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Marcus Gilbert</td><td align="right" colspan="2">0</td><td align="right" colspan="2">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">DEFENSE</td><td align="right" width="16%">TACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">SACK</td><td align="right" width="16%">INT</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Larry Foote</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>LaMarr Woodley</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">2.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Lawrence Timmons</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Troy Polamalu</td><td align="right">7</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Ryan Clark</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Ike Taylor</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Curtis Brown</td><td align="right">4</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Casey Hampton</td><td align="right">3</td><td align="right">2.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Will Allen</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Keenan Lewis</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Ziggy Hood</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">1.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Jason Worilds</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>James Harrison</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">0.0</td><td align="right">0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICKING</td><td align="right" width="16%">FG</td><td align="right" width="16%">XP</td><td align="right" width="16%">PTS</td><td align="right" width="16%">LONG</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Shaun Suisham</td><td align="right">1/1</td><td align="right">2/2</td><td align="right">5</td><td align="right">19</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PUNTING</td><td align="right" width="16%">NO</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">IN20</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Drew Butler</td><td align="right">6</td><td align="right">296</td><td align="right">49.3</td><td align="right">1</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">KICK RETURN</td><td align="right" width="16%">RET</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Emmanuel Sanders</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">43</td><td align="right">21.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="evenrow"><td>Chris Rainey</td><td align="right">1</td><td align="right">22</td><td align="right">22.0</td><td align="right">0</td></tr><tr class="stathead"><td width="36%">PUNT RETURN</td><td align="right" width="16%">RET</td><td align="right" width="16%">YDS</td><td align="right" width="16%">AVG</td><td align="right" width="16%">TD</td></tr><tr class="oddrow"><td>Chris Rainey</td><td align="right">2</td><td align="right">21</td><td align="right">10.5</td><td align="right">0</td></tr></table></td></tr></table></body></html>

I think I will be sticking with these. I only used Gameflow with an occasional audible where needed & this was a Play Now game.

that boxscore gave me a little hope on getting good games in CCM, Until you said it was played in play now.

**CHB1** · 09-15-2012, 04:14 AM

Re: Pro could be the way to go

i had the same experience with verzus 2 madden 12 sliders

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...m-offline.html

**mooch49** · 09-15-2012, 05:43 AM

Re: Pro could be the way to go

In my 24-21 win over the vikings, AP (cpu) had 23 carries for 147. Ponder (cpu) threw 17 times. For this game, i changed speed to very slow. Kept threshold at 75. Gore (me) had 29 carries for about 130. Smith (me) threw it 31 times. Not sure i will keep speed at very slow. If i do, going to decrease quarter length from 15 to 13. Also, tackling would have to be increased to about 40. Going to play next game on slow, but lower tackling to 15 from 25. Games are definitely competitive on this level with most cpu sliders at 75 and user sliders at 25. What i like most about pro is that the ai calls a good game. The qb doesn't hold on to the ball as long. But i think keeping the speed at slow or normal works best. Remember, i am using this difficulty in an online CCM. The computer can run the ball effectively, but the problem no matter the difficulty and slider adjustments it doesn't look very good doing it. I think this is just the product of how CCM's gameplay was programmed. Even still, i am addicted and enjoy playing the mode. The good outweighs the bad. The problem is the bad is pretty bad. Hopefully, EA can patch things and clean up CCM gameplay a bit. It just can be very sloppy as opposed to play now. But these pro settings will provide a fun and realistic gameplay experience for CCM. I still recommend slow speed, but if you going to use very slow, up tackling some and decrease quarter length. If you stick with slow, lower tackling to 15 and cpu fumbles to 50. Hope more will try these out.

**Kramer5150** · 09-15-2012, 06:47 AM

Re: Pro could be the way to go

I wanna be tripped out?...lol
After seeing your thread about pro,it got me to thinking....I said "self,what would happen if I took it to the extreme",so I lowered it to rookie...YES rookie...lol using my own sliders.

I tested this in my online cc,against the Ravens of all teams...I wanted to see how rookie played since you were trying pro...I was mainly looking at their running game.

The outcome?....those damn Ravens ran the ball down my throat all way for a touchdown...Flacco only needed to throw 1 time,as Rice and Addai tore my Steeler defense to shreds with the running game,I couldn't believe it.

I'm no "master" at this game,but I ain't no slouch either,I was simply dumbfounded at the results. I even threw my best run blitzes at them,to no avail. I wish I would've remembered the #'s (or maybe I don't...lol) but Flacco only needing 1 pass,and the rest was running,should tell you all you need to know.

I only had a chance to play a little bit of the game,so I'll have to finish it later,but if the whole game turns out like the short bit I played,Rice will have over 200 yds on me...lol

**The ArkanSaw** · 09-15-2012, 09:40 AM

Re: Pro could be the way to go

Pro is definitely the way to go.

**Tyrant8RDFL** · 09-15-2012, 11:01 AM

Re: Pro could be the way to go

Originally posted by CowherPower

I wanna be tripped out?...lol
After seeing your thread about pro,it got me to thinking....I said "self,what would happen if I took it to the extreme",so I lowered it to rookie...YES rookie...lol using my own sliders.

I tested this in my online cc,against the Ravens of all teams...I wanted to see how rookie played since you were trying pro...I was mainly looking at their running game.

The outcome?....those damn Ravens ran the ball down my throat all way for a touchdown...Flacco only needed to throw 1 time,as Rice and Addai tore my Steeler defense to shreds with the running game,I couldn't believe it.

I'm no "master" at this game,but I ain't no slouch either,I was simply dumbfounded at the results. I even threw my best run blitzes at them,to no avail. I wish I would've remembered the #'s (or maybe I don't...lol) but Flacco only needing 1 pass,and the rest was running,should tell you all you need to know.

I only had a chance to play a little bit of the game,so I'll have to finish it later,but if the whole game turns out like the short bit I played,Rice will have over 200 yds on me...lol

Could it be that maybe they have the level listed wrong. Like rookie is actually all Madden? I play on all madden and I destroy the CPU and now we have guys claiming how pro and Rookie can be a serious problem. This can be a great find

**mooch49** · 09-15-2012, 11:50 AM

Re: Pro could be the way to go

Originally posted by Tyrant8RDFL

Could it be that maybe they have the level listed wrong. Like rookie is actually all Madden? I play on all madden and I destroy the CPU and now we have guys claiming how pro and Rookie can be a serious problem. This can be a great find

It's not really the challenge that makes pro or dare i say rookie better than all-madden. It's the realism that does. I just think at least in the games i played on pro that the computer makes better decisions. Right now I'm just having problems settling on game speed and threshold. That seems to be universal among most of the slider makers on the forum. Very slow is good for the best animations, but what i don't like about it is that it feels like you are playing in quicksand and that throws don't come off the qb very strong. But if you do play on that speed, it is important that you increase tackling for human/cpu to around 50. On slow and above, you need to lower tackling to 25 or lower or else you see too many wwe hits. I think i'm going to stick with either slow or normal with tackling at 15 and 5 respectively.

**The JareBear** · 09-15-2012, 12:06 PM

Re: Pro could be the way to go

There is no way that the levels are listed wrong. I believe, instead, its just that the levels are programmed poorly in CCM. Instead of just making things harder, going to allpro or allmadden in CCM change behaviors and CPU logic, in some cases for the worse.

I havent tried this yet, howeer, at some, I will have to.

After I finish my ccm game that I am playing I might boot a fresh test CCM just to play this for a game and see what I find...

**mikemck09** · 09-15-2012, 12:13 PM

Re: Pro could be the way to go

I think its an "Ego" thing for a lot of dudes here on OS to HAVE to play on All Madden... I tried sets on Pro a little after every set on All Pro and All Madden were failing to no avail and I have had success reaching realism both statistically and gameplay wise... I don't get how some guys could b--ch and moan about a Difficulty Setting that is broken but they never go lower than All Madden because they feel they are too good for it... Great find bro, I will plug these in to check how they play out... Just wonder how is the User WR Catching on 25, afraid it might produce crazy drops... I played a Test CCM on with a Test Default M12 All Madden slider set and the User Catching was at 25 and I had guys dropping wide open passes about every 3 attempts... Good luck with this man,

**bukktown** · 09-15-2012, 12:23 PM

Re: Pro could be the way to go

I agree that the AI QB makes better reads/throws on PRO. That was the first thing that jumped out at me.

**The ArkanSaw** · 09-15-2012, 12:35 PM

Re: Pro could be the way to go

Im getting ran on even with correct run commits.

Try these:

User rush defense sliders
CPU Run blocking and break tackles:100
Threshold:75
Gamespeed slow'

No switching/only use D-line.

Shaun Green had 141 yards and 1 TD. Jamaal Charles had 84 before he got injured in the 2nd and his backup had 118 yards and 2 TD. And now im playing the browns with 43 seconds left in the third and Richardson has 159 yards on 14 carries and 2 TD's.

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