Spawn Games

[mogrod]

Can someone explain this for me?

What is it's main purpose?

I think I remember seeing you can upload them to your locker online, but why would you want to?

Any and all help is greatly appreciated.

[notydredz]

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Can someone explain this for me?

What is it's main purpose?

I think I remember seeing you can upload them to your locker online, but why would you want to?

Any and all help is greatly appreciated.

You can upload a game to your locker and continue playing it on your PSP when the PSP version of Madden is released in September.

[tlj101010]

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there's a PSP sync option in the game. You don't need to upload your game to your locker to play it on your PSP (when Madden PSP is released, that is..).

There is a long, drawn out process for playing your franchise online. From what I understand, you:

1) go into your franchise, uncheck the game you want to play.
2) hit X and choose to spawn game.
3) then go online. your opponent should download the file from your locker and then choose spawn game.
4) play the game
5) go back into your franchise, check the game, and choose merge...

At least, I think that's how you do it. I haven't tried it yet.

[caero]

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The spawned feature is bugged out. Essentially what is happening is that the spawned games are treated like exhibition matches. This results in injuries that are not more serious than the "out for game" that we see online as well.... What this means is that if you merge the spawned game back into the franchise you have no injuries at all.

I don't understand why Tiburon didn't complete this feature. As it is right now it's completely useless to people who wants a realistic football franchise season.

Seriously, Does anyone at Tiburon even think any further than their next coffee break? as it seems now they've just taken 2005 and put in a bunch of half assed semi working ideas and labeled the game 2006. great...

[ObiWanJenkins]

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The spawned feature is bugged out. Essentially what is happening is that the spawned games are treated like exhibition matches. This results in injuries that are not more serious than the "out for game" that we see online as well.... What this means is that if you merge the spawned game back into the franchise you have no injuries at all.

I don't understand why Tiburon didn't complete this feature. As it is right now it's completely useless to people who wants a realistic football franchise season.

Seriously, Does anyone at Tiburon even think any further than their next coffee break? as it seems now they've just taken 2005 and put in a bunch of half assed semi working ideas and labeled the game 2006. great...

Did the game do this last year? I think it's a great feature. If this is the first year, I think you should cut them some slack on. New features are never perfect the first time out.

[caero]

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What????

seriously, people have become so incredibly accustomed to EA only getting the job half done that they actually have lost all critical sense???

This just proves my point that we are paying 50$ for an update patch every year that "tries" to fix the half assed job the previous version tried to do the year earlier.

Sorry, but saying that consumers should cut a company some slack because they're releasing a product that isn't even finished is pure and utter bull.

Would you not complain if you bought a golf club and the head was missing? Would you not be pissed off if you bought a DVD and when you got home you realise that the company only sold you the cover without a dvd in it?

This is getting so out of hand. I gather that by the time they release Madden 2007 or 2008 everyone has become a bunch of mindless zombies that buy the game even though the game only consists of the main menu and nothing else.

[ObiWanJenkins]

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What????

seriously, people have become so incredibly accustomed to EA only getting the job half done that they actually have lost all critical sense???

This just proves my point that we are paying 50$ for an update patch every year that "tries" to fix the half assed job the previous version tried to do the year earlier.

Sorry, but saying that consumers should cut a company some slack because they're releasing a product that isn't even finished is pure and utter bull.

Would you not complain if you bought a golf club and the head was missing? Would you not be pissed off if you bought a DVD and when you got home you realise that the company only sold you the cover without a dvd in it?

This is getting so out of hand. I gather that by the time they release Madden 2007 or 2008 everyone has become a bunch of mindless zombies that buy the game even though the game only consists of the main menu and nothing else.

You're complaining about one specific feature (the spawn feature), and I asked if it was new for this year. If so, yes, I think you should cut them some slack on this one new feature. If you're speaking like this expecting every NEW feature released to be perfect, then you're just looking for things to complain about.

Would I be pissed if I bought the first ever DVD with new Ultra 9.7 digital sound encoding on it, and it wasn't perfect? No, I wouldn't. I don't expect brand new features to be without bugs.

[caero]

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Then I guess that I just have too high expectations.

But if I go out and buy a star wars movie on DVD I would expect to see some light sabers. What if they were not there?

It's the same thing for this game. People have just gotten accustomed to the low quality that EA releases. And yes I mean ea specifically. Most other gaming companies with an ounce of selfrespect would have completed these features long ago. Would people have complained if there were no crowbar in HL2? yes. Talent is the difference here.

[caero]

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And to be honest all the flaws and uncompleted features just shows you how bad a development team Tiburon is as a whole. Any other company would have game testers that would have found and noticed these errors and bugs to the developers.

And unless anyone can disapprove the fact that I hardly think that the developers at Tiburon give any high regards to their testers then be welcome to prove it. I have a friend who got fired from a testing job at tiburon because he in his own words was too critical.

I wonder if terms such as Total Quality and Total Quality Management are even in the EA vocabularies. I highly doubt it.

[ObiWanJenkins]

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Then I guess that I just have too high expectations.

But if I go out and buy a star wars movie on DVD I would expect to see some light sabers. What if they were not there?

It's the same thing for this game. People have just gotten accustomed to the low quality that EA releases. And yes I mean ea specifically. Most other gaming companies with an ounce of selfrespect would have completed these features long ago. Would people have complained if there were no crowbar in HL2? yes. Talent is the difference here.

You're going to extremes. The spawn feature not being perfect is not like no lightsabers in a Star Wars DVD. Every single game that hits the market is flawed in one way or another. There are bugs in every release by every company. If any company with self-respect would have completed the spawning feature long ago, why is EA the only one doing it? I suppose you hate every video game company equally, because every single coming to market is just like this.

[ObiWanJenkins]

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And to be honest all the flaws and uncompleted features just shows you how bad a development team Tiburon is as a whole. Any other company would have game testers that would have found and noticed these errors and bugs to the developers.

And unless anyone can disapprove the fact that I hardly think that the developers at Tiburon give any high regards to their testers then be welcome to prove it. I have a friend who got fired from a testing job at tiburon because he in his own words was too critical.

I wonder if terms such as Total Quality and Total Quality Management are even in the EA vocabularies. I highly doubt it.

It's such a bad development team that makes tons of money every year. They must be doing something right. Oh yeah, it's the millions of mindless people that by the game each year. Wouldn't that put you in the tiny minority then?

There are budget concerns and time constraints. Yes, there is such thing as being overly critical. Where does he work now, and is it with a company that puts out a yearly release? It's hilarious that you speak this way, yet Madden was easily the best NFL game year in and year out until NFL 2k5. And VC even didn't get everything right. BUt I guess their development team is horrible too.

[caero]

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Actually they are not. I am a PC guy by heart. I own an xbox as well. And to be honest, the console games that EA put out compared to other games (maybe not in the same genre of games) are of such poor quality when it comes to bugs and flaws.

The same goes for their PC games. Just look at Battlefield 2. Highly awaited etc etc. and when it was released it had piss poor performance because some dolt who programmed the menues and the online part screwed up. 1-2 months later they release a patch for that. It turns out that the patch screws up the game even more. Now finally they have released a patch that fixes what the last patch screwed up.

This is what EA is doing with Madden as well. The only difference is that you are paying for every patch they release. And they only release 1 patch every year, namely a full retail iteration.

Sorry, but I am just portraying normal common consumer sense here. imo we are paying for a half finished product. And next year they want us to pay for a product which _might_ have the bugs from this year fixed, but probably also will have 10 times as many bugs in another place.

And yes, I am very sorry that a developing guru such as John Carmack etc. does not have a passion for football, because then Tiburon wouldn't even exist this day today as EA would have dropped them as it wouldn't be feasible to sell a game that was only half as good as the competitors.

[caero]

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And actually I am not asking Tiburon to release a game every year. They only do so because they make so much money off stupid consumers who blindly shelf out 50 bucks for a roster update.

I'd rather have a game every 2nd or 3rd year that is proper and that shows advancement in both realism, gameplay, gfx, animations etc etc than a piss poor effort that more resembles something the PC people could have done with the Madden editor they made.

[caero]

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It's hilarious that you speak this way, yet Madden was easily the best NFL game year in and year out until NFL 2k5. And VC even didn't get everything right. BUt I guess their development team is horrible too.

In one word, "Yes" they were/are horrible as well. But at least they made greater advancements every year.

Not that I know much about the NFL2K series though.

And don't make this into I suddenly am a ESPN fanboy who just want to dis madden.

[ObiWanJenkins]

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Actually they are not. I am a PC guy by heart. I own an xbox as well. And to be honest, the console games that EA put out compared to other games (maybe not in the same genre of games) are of such poor quality when it comes to bugs and flaws.

The same goes for their PC games. Just look at Battlefield 2. Highly awaited etc etc. and when it was released it had piss poor performance because some dolt who programmed the menues and the online part screwed up. 1-2 months later they release a patch for that. It turns out that the patch screws up the game even more. Now finally they have released a patch that fixes what the last patch screwed up.

This is what EA is doing with Madden as well. The only difference is that you are paying for every patch they release. And they only release 1 patch every year, namely a full retail iteration.

Sorry, but I am just portraying normal common consumer sense here. imo we are paying for a half finished product. And next year they want us to pay for a product which _might_ have the bugs from this year fixed, but probably also will have 10 times as many bugs in another place.

And yes, I am very sorry that a developing guru such as John Carmack etc. does not have a passion for football, because then Tiburon wouldn't even exist this day today as EA would have dropped them as it wouldn't be feasible to sell a game that was only half as good as the competitors.

How many years are average non-sports games in development? Normally 2-3 years. Tiburon has 9 months. That separates all sports titles for everything else. The cycle is extremely hurried and very stressful. Getting the game out on time is the main concern.

The funniest thing is you have this opinion and you're still paying for the game. If you didn't purchase it, then you can't complain about spending the money on it.