3.88 40 Yard Dash

[Exonerated]

Ok. So i made a rookie on ncaa 10 and named him lerbon james.

6'9, 220 pounds. 99 speed. 99 agi. 99 acc. 99 jump. 102 return.

So imported him to madden via draft class and drafted him at 4th overall. (96 overall).

So i go to train my active team before a game to increase lerbon's quick receiver (route running) rating.

And i run 3.88's, 3.92's. A bad run is 4.02.

Mind you, he's 6'9 and 99 speed, accc, agi.

Do you think a player should be this fast in the game? Is it even realistic.

Coz this sort of player, just flat out burns everyone. Massive strides, massive acc , massive speed.

Should the max 40 yard dash for a player be limited to 4.18? or 4.15. Cos 3.88 seems a tad freakish.

Anyway, what i'm really asking is should there be a cap on how fast a player is?



Moving away from that, he can't outleap anyone, even though he has 99 jump , 97 spec. Receivers rarely leave their feet

[NuJoiseySoulja]

Re: 3.88 40 Yard Dash

why not? a linebacker can launch himself in the air 50 feet like super mario why not be like sonic the hedgehog?

[Tyrant8RDFL]

Re: 3.88 40 Yard Dash

Ok. So i made a rookie on ncaa 10 and named him lerbon james.

6'9, 220 pounds. 99 speed. 99 agi. 99 acc. 99 jump. 102 return.

So imported him to madden via draft class and drafted him at 4th overall. (96 overall).

So i go to train my active team before a game to increase lerbon's quick receiver (route running) rating.

And i run 3.88's, 3.92's. A bad run is 4.02.

Mind you, he's 6'9 and 99 speed, accc, agi.

Do you think a player should be this fast in the game? Is it even realistic.

Coz this sort of player, just flat out burns everyone. Massive strides, massive acc , massive speed.

Should the max 40 yard dash for a player be limited to 4.18? or 4.15. Cos 3.88 seems a tad freakish.

Anyway, what i'm really asking is should there be a cap on how fast a player is?



Moving away from that, he can't outleap anyone, even though he has 99 jump , 97 spec. Receivers rarely leave their feet

3.8 in the 40 is very unrealistic to be honest. I think Deon sanders once ran a 4.1 and I believe thats the best 40 time im not sure, but a 4.1 is pretty much unheard of.

I would make him somewhere to a 4.2 or 4.3. Thats alot more realisitic.

What you have now is a SUPER FREAK

[chadskee]

Re: 3.88 40 Yard Dash

Lebron would honestly be a dominent WR if you think about it, in more ways than his speed.

[arichzona]

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Are you seriously concerned about realism? I saw that you also have won 8 straight Super Bowls, 12 of the last 22.

I guess if that is realistic, a 40yd dash .3 faster than any football player has ever run in real life, is as strong as any player in the league, who can also jump as high as possible, may as well be realistic also.

Do I think there should be a "cap?" There should be some level of human realism involved in a game that is supposed to mimic real life, yes. Even though it is only a game.... if you are trying to represent real life, begin with realistic abilities.

[kehlis]

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you're the one that created him 99 in everything...If you are concerned with realism maybe that wasn't the smartest thing to do?

[Exonerated]

Re: 3.88 40 Yard Dash

Yeah. 99 is the max speed rating though. So technically the game is saying 3.88s 40 yard dash is realistic.

I never intended my dude to run a 3.88. I thought he would run a 4.2 max.

Just saying that its quite odd.

[kehlis]

Re: 3.88 40 Yard Dash

I never intended my dude to run a 3.88. I thought he would run a 4.2 max.

Just saying that its quite odd.

I can see what you are saying...my apologies for sounding harsh.

[Hellisan]

Re: 3.88 40 Yard Dash

you're the one that created him 99 in everything...If you are concerned with realism maybe that wasn't the smartest thing to do?

QFT

[Exonerated]

Re: 3.88 40 Yard Dash

So a guy with 99 speed , 99 acc. Runs a 3.88? I don't see whats unrealistic about a person with 99 speed , 99 acc. What's unrealistic is that he's running a 3.88.

i'm just saying. Speed is maybe too imbalanced in madden.

You've got dudes running 3.88 40 yards. And since speed increases and decreases on a sliding scale. Guys with 93 speed are running 4.3s.

This is probably why speed is so powerful in madden, and ncaa.

People are simply just too fast!

[shttymcgee]

Re: 3.88 40 Yard Dash

3.8 in the 40 is very unrealistic to be honest. I think Deon sanders once ran a 4.1 and I believe thats the best 40 time im not sure, but a 4.1 is pretty much unheard of.

I would make him somewhere to a 4.2 or 4.3. Thats alot more realisitic.

What you have now is a SUPER FREAK

Deion ran 4.19, but that was hand-timed start to finish. The way its timed now, Deion's time would be about 4.25, still one of the fastest ever. Remember, the combine 40 is timed on the runner's go, so those times aren't really accurate and they can vary. 40 yard dash times are one of the most exaggerated testing measures and give just the slightest degree of measuring how fast a player can play. Almost all posted 40 times are 1 to even 3 tenths faster than the player actually is and plenty of players play faster than their 40, you don't get into a sprinter's stance in football. Hell, Jerry Rice ran around 4.6 (don't remember what it was for sure) back in the hand-timed days, and he seemed to be able to outrun plenty of DB's. The 40 and even the pro-agility drill is going the way of the dinosaur, because there is so much technique involved now that doesn't transfer to football that the times are becoming irrelevant. Don't get me wrong thought, speed still kills, (Chris Johnson), its just better to judge it on film than on the track. I like the two jumping events to correlate to explosiveness, first step ability and the 3 cone for agility, even though technique in the 3 cone is becoming a factor as well.

[Cryolemon]

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So a guy with 99 speed , 99 acc. Runs a 3.88? I don't see whats unrealistic about a person with 99 speed , 99 acc. What's unrealistic is that he's running a 3.88.

i'm just saying. Speed is maybe too imbalanced in madden.

You've got dudes running 3.88 40 yards. And since speed increases and decreases on a sliding scale. Guys with 93 speed are running 4.3s.

This is probably why speed is so powerful in madden, and ncaa.

People are simply just too fast!

How fast do you think Usain Bolt could run 40 yards? lol.

[Exonerated]

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lol.

Usain would probably run it in 4.3-4.4.

He's a huge man. Slow start (compared to the small elite sprinters).

With pretty vicious acceleration. But where he kills you is that top end speed. That dude flies like he's superman.

He'd have 97 acceleration, but 105 speed.

I'm not sure what those things mean in Madden. Theres really only jogging and sprinting and not much in between.

[Cryolemon]

Re: 3.88 40 Yard Dash

lol.

Usain would probably run it in 4.3-4.4.

He's a huge man. Slow start (compared to the small elite sprinters).

With pretty vicious acceleration. But where he kills you is that top end speed. That dude flies like he's superman.

He'd have 97 acceleration, but 105 speed.

I'm not sure what those things mean in Madden. Theres really only jogging and sprinting and not much in between.

I'd be interested to get a time machine and do a 40 yards dash race between Ty Cobb, Deion Sanders, Devin Hester and Usain Bolt lol.

Ty Cobb is there because he once scored from second on a wild pitch.

[NuJoiseySoulja]

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They need really balance the attributes. I made a chart from 'another football game' of what the attributes mean like if someone has 100 speed or 80 speed how fast can they run the 40... STR, if they have 100 STR they can bench press 225 pounds 50 times. Vertical Jump (Jump), and Shuttle Run (Agility)

Here is what I am talking about.

CHART
40/SPD (SPEED)
4.19/100
4.22/99
4.24/96
4.26/95
4.28/94
4.30/93
4.32/92
4.34/91
4.36/90
4.38/89
4.40/88
4.41/87
4.43/86
4.45/85
4.47/84
4.49/83
4.51/82
4.53/81
4.55/80
4.57/79
4.59/78
4.61/77
4.63/76
4.65/75
4.67/74
4.69/73
4.71/72
4.73/71
4.75/70
4.76/69
4.78/68
4.80/67
4.82/66
4.84/65
4.86/64
4.88/63
4.90/62
4.92/61
4.94/60
4.96/59
4.98/58
5.00/57
5.02/56
5.04/55
5.06/54
5.08/53
5.10/52
5.11/51
5.13/50
5.15/49
5.17/48
5.19/47
5.21/46
5.23/45
5.25/44
5.27/43
5.29/42
5.31/41
5.33/40
5.35/39
5.37/38
5.39/37
5.41/36
5.43/35
5.45/34
5.46/33
5.48/32
5.50/31
5.52/30
5.54/29
5.56/28
5.58/27
5.60/26
5.62/25

BNCH/STR (STRENGTH)
50/100
49/99
48/98
47/96
46/95
45/94
44/93
43/92
42/91
41/90
40/89
39/88
38/87
37/84
36/81
35/79
34/76
33/73
32/71
31/68
30/66
29/63
28/60
27/58
26/55
25/52
24/50
23/47
22/45
21/42
20/39
19/37
18/34
17/32
16/29
15/26
14/24
13/21
12/18
11/16
10/13
9/11
8/9
7/6
6/4
5/3

VRT/JMP (JUMP)
46.0/100
45.5/99
45.0/98
44.5/97
44.0/96
43.5/95
43.0/94
42.5/93
42.0/92
41.5/91
41.0/90
40.5/89
40.0/88
39.5/87
39.0/86
38.5/85
38.0/84
37.5/83
37.0/82
36.5/81
36.0/81
35.5/80
35.0/80
34.5/79
34.0/78
33.5/77
33.0/76
32.5/75
32.0/74
31.5/73
31.0/72
30.5/71
30.0/70
29.5/69
29.0/68
28.5/67
28.0/66
27.5/65
27.0/64
26.5/63
26.0/62
25.5/61
25.0/60
24.5/59
24.0/58
23.5/57
23.0/56
22.5/55
22.0/54
21.5/53
21.0/52
20.5/51
20.0/50

SH/AGL (AGILITY)
3.90/99
3.93/98
3.95/97
3.97/96
3.99/95
4.01/94
4.03/93
4.05/92
4.07/91
4.09/90
4.11/89
4.13/88
4.15/87
4.18/86
4.20/85
4.22/84
4.24/83
4.26/82
4.28/81
4.30/80
4.32/79
4.34/78
4.36/77
4.38/76
4.40/75
4.43/74
4.45/73
4.47/72
4.49/71
4.51/70
4.53/69
4.55/68
4.57/67
4.59/66
4.61/65
4.63/64
4.66/63
4.68/62
4.70/61
4.72/60
4.74/59
4.76/58
4.78/57
4.80/56
4.82/55
4.84/54
4.86/53
4.88/52
4.91/51
4.93/50
4.95/49
4.97/48
4.99/47
5.01/46
5.03/45
5.05/44
5.07/43
5.09/42
5.11/41
5.13/40
5.16/39
5.18/38
5.20/37
5.22/36
5.24/35
5.26/34
5.28/33
5.30/32
5.32/31
5.34/30

A majority of the Madden lineman in the game have their strengths in the 90s, but what is that based off of? I remember watching one of Apexisfree's videos and he said the Ratings do not mean anything.

(REFERENCE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPnKccuN3zs)

Is the 97 STR Larry Allen has in Maddden just for show or is it based off of a system similar to the one I just posted? I am thinking maybe they combined their Bench Press with the Squat, now if they did that then yes a lineman having 90 STR is reasonable.