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  • #1
    spkills5723
    Rookie
    • Aug 2008
    • 52

    Franchise: 3-4


    In high school my team ran a 3-4 defense similar to that of many NFL teams.They need to fix the 3-4 philosophy in franchise mode or program it differently my NT or 3-4 DE should not have 13 sacks,The primary function of the D-Line is to protect the LBs and play the run. Each defensive lineman is responsible for 2 gaps.There progression in franchise mode should be just like roster updates based of team run defensive ranking.Every franchise i should not have to put my 3-4 outside backers at end to up there sack total. Guys like Ware, Harrison, and Merriman are all on pace for at least 100 sacks,not in madden in my cowboys franchise i would be happy to see ware with 4 and thats sad."3-4 OLBs are the playmakers of the D. They get the glory of picking up sacks on the QB. They must have strong pass rushing skills". Maybe Fmv and Pmv should account for sacks along with Acc.
  • #2
    FadeEmAll
    Banned
    • Dec 2008
    • 880

    Re: Franchise: 3-4


    Re: Franchise: 3-4

    Originally posted by spkills5723
    In high school my team ran a 3-4 defense similar to that of many NFL teams.They need to fix the 3-4 philosophy in franchise mode or program it differently my NT or 3-4 DE should not have 13 sacks,The primary function of the D-Line is to protect the LBs and play the run. Each defensive lineman is responsible for 2 gaps.There progression in franchise mode should be just like roster updates based of team run defensive ranking.Every franchise i should not have to put my 3-4 outside backers at end to up there sack total. Guys like Ware, Harrison, and Merriman are all on pace for at least 100 sacks,not in madden in my cowboys franchise i would be happy to see ware with 4 and thats sad."3-4 OLBs are the playmakers of the D. They get the glory of picking up sacks on the QB. They must have strong pass rushing skills". Maybe Fmv and Pmv should account for sacks along with Acc.

    Many others have also recognized this problem. The developers are supposedly addressing this issue for Madden '10

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    • #3
      youALREADYknow
      MVP
      • Aug 2008
      • 3635

      Re: Franchise: 3-4


      Re: Franchise: 3-4

      Defensive schemes and assignments are broken in both EA football games. There is no nose tackle.

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      • #4
        Maximus205
        Pro
        • Apr 2009
        • 550

        Re: Franchise: 3-4


        Re: Franchise: 3-4

        Originally posted by youALREADYknow
        Defensive schemes and assignments are broken in both EA football games. There is no nose tackle.
        hopfully that changes with this years game considering Haynesworth bringing back the importance of having a monster in the middle not just to get sacks but mostly cause problems.
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        • #5
          Cnada
          Rookie
          • Mar 2009
          • 407

          Re: Franchise: 3-4


          Re: Franchise: 3-4

          Not all 3-4 use a 2 Gap system, a 1 gap system is very popular by a superbowl winning team

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          • #6
            NYyankz225
            Pro
            • Aug 2008
            • 555

            Re: Franchise: 3-4


            Re: Franchise: 3-4

            Originally posted by Cnada
            Not all 3-4 use a 2 Gap system, a 1 gap system is very popular by a superbowl winning team
            And that's what the Packers will be using.

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            • #7
              youALREADYknow
              MVP
              • Aug 2008
              • 3635

              Re: Franchise: 3-4


              Re: Franchise: 3-4

              Originally posted by Cnada
              Not all 3-4 use a 2 Gap system, a 1 gap system is very popular by a superbowl winning team
              The problem is that you cannot use a 2 gap system in this game. They need to add true double team logic on the OL and change the way the DL attacks the line in the 3-4 scheme.

              Zone blitzing plays should have different gap assignments than normal 2 gap 3-4 plays.

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              • #8
                SA1NT401
                Banned
                • Sep 2007
                • 3498

                Re: Franchise: 3-4


                Re: Franchise: 3-4

                Originally posted by youALREADYknow
                The problem is that you cannot use a 2 gap system in this game. They need to add true double team logic on the OL and change the way the DL attacks the line in the 3-4 scheme.

                Zone blitzing plays should have different gap assignments than normal 2 gap 3-4 plays.
                3-4 and 4-3 in MADDEN are the same aside from the extra LB. The 3-4 in the madden series is just a variation of the 4-3. They do NOT react or play out as they should.

                i use balanced playbook and use both simply due to the fact they are really not different at all. Actually, i use Nickel about 80% of the time.

                hOPE THEY MAKE SOME serious CHANGES.

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                • #9
                  Obelysk
                  Pro
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 612

                  Re: Franchise: 3-4


                  Re: Franchise: 3-4

                  Originally posted by Cnada
                  Not all 3-4 use a 2 Gap system, a 1 gap system is very popular by a superbowl winning team
                  Nearly all teams use both the 1 gap or 2 gap system it all depends on the play.
                  *˙ǝɟıן ɹnoʎ ɟo spuoɔǝs ǝʌıɟ ʇsoן ʇsnɾ ǝʌɐɥ noʎ ʇɐɥʇ ʎɐs oʇ ʎɹɹos ɯɐ ı sıɥʇ pɐǝɹ noʎ ɟı

                  *Actual time may vary.

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                  • #10
                    Cnada
                    Rookie
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 407

                    Re: Franchise: 3-4


                    Re: Franchise: 3-4

                    Originally posted by Obelysk
                    Nearly all teams use both the 1 gap or 2 gap system it all depends on the play.
                    I was under the impression that the Dick Lebeau 3-4 is very different to the Parcells/billicheck due to gap assignments on most plays

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                    • #11
                      94niners
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 327

                      Re: Franchise: 3-4


                      Re: Franchise: 3-4

                      Originally posted by Cnada
                      I was under the impression that the Dick Lebeau 3-4 is very different to the Parcells/billicheck due to gap assignments on most plays
                      "Very" is a relative word. I would wager that the LeBeau system is closer to the Parcells system than it is to a typical 4-3. I imagine that it is the middle ground between the two, but that is a guess...

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                      • #12
                        adembroski
                        49ers
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 5831

                        Re: Franchise: 3-4


                        Re: Franchise: 3-4

                        Originally posted by FadeEmAll
                        Many others have also recognized this problem. The developers are supposedly addressing this issue for Madden '10
                        We hope they are addressing it... they have said nothing to that effect.
                        There are two types of people on OS: Those who disagree with me, and those who agree.

                        The first kind is wrong. The second is superfluous.

                        The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.
                        -Mark Twain.

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                        • #13
                          FadeEmAll
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 880

                          Re: Franchise: 3-4


                          Re: Franchise: 3-4

                          Originally posted by adembroski
                          "We hope they are addressing it... they have said nothing to that effect." From your post

                          * Ian Cummings has indicated that blocking and general OL/DL interaction is a priority this year. Strong possibility of seeing the branching animation system will be expanded to include line moves. From your thread
                          According to you which one is the lie?

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                          • #14
                            latiger12
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 24

                            Re: Franchise: 3-4


                            Re: Franchise: 3-4

                            Originally posted by youALREADYknow
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                            Yep, hopefully these guys are working this out!

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                            • #15
                              DreaIVIS
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 85

                              Re: Franchise: 3-4


                              Re: Franchise: 3-4

                              Are they fixing 3-4 OLB conversion guys from DE to OLB?A DE in the draft should have something next to his name that says 3-4 OLB prospect. Like the Vernon Gholstons and the Brian Orakpos.

                              I'm sick of drafting 240lb 4-3 linebackers and plugging them in a 3-4 defense, it isn't right.

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