Madden 10 Problematic Running Animations

[dat swag]

Lets talk about what is wrong with the the player running animations...I've seen many people complaining about them so lets try to add our input and/or pinpoint the problem


My take on it is this...The players do not appear to have a "forward lean" when they run...Madden player models almost seem to be Marching instead of running. Additionally the running animations need to be varied. Every skill players looks the same in the open field...Would it be possible for EA to capture different running styles and how they look at different speeds.

I do believe the biggest issue is the "NO FORWARD LEAN"...Players are too upright.

What else are you guys seeing???

[Exonerated]

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Two things.

Backs are stiff and straight, they should be arched and leaning forward.

Knee lift is far too high. Knees are almost 90 degrees, even Usain Bolt can't run with such perfect form. Reduce knee lift by 20%. Looks like the 'high knees' warm up.

[Jetpac]

Re: Madden 10 Problematic Running Animations

Lets talk about what is wrong with the the player running animations...I've seen many people complaining about them so lets try to add our input and/or pinpoint the problem


My take on it is this...The players do not appear to have a "forward lean" when they run...Madden player models almost seem to be Marching instead of running. Additionally the running animations need to be varied. Every skill players looks the same in the open field...Would it be possible for EA to capture different running styles and how they look at different speeds.

I do believe the biggest issue is the "NO FORWARD LEAN"...Players are too upright.

What else are you guys seeing???

YOU MEAN ROBO FEST? Yea im just so sick of it... im sick.. I can't believe its the year 2009 and a game from 2004 runs so much more authentic

[briax87]

Re: Madden 10 Problematic Running Animations

Two things.

Backs are stiff and straight, they should be arched and leaning forward.

Knee lift is far too high. Knees are almost 90 degrees, even Usain Bolt can't run with such perfect form. Reduce knee lift by 20%. Looks like the 'high knees' warm up.

Thats a pretty good description of it

[dat swag]

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YOU MEAN ROBO FEST? Yea im just so sick of it... im sick.. I can't believe its the year 2009 and a game from 2004 runs so much more authentic

Bro...I feel your irritation but lets not turn this into an inappropriate bitchfest...lets try to add constructive criticism and pinpoint the problems so they can get fixed in our lifetime. Maybe that's what your doing...If I've misinterpreted your response I apologize...

[Exonerated]

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Although, in events like 200M and 400M on track, you are encouraged to get your knees as high as humanly possible to maintain form, and thus velocity and momentum. But this is at the back end of the race where you are fatigued.

[Jetpac]

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Bro...I feel your irritation but lets not turn this into an inappropriate bitchfest...lets try to add constructive criticism and pinpoint the problems so they can get fixed in our lifetime. Maybe that's what your doing...If I've misinterpreted your response I apologize...

No your right, I apologize. I am very upset though... I just feel like for the last five years my favorite sport has been absent from video games and its PURE frustration. I'll stop.. thanx man

[dat swag]

Re: Madden 10 Problematic Running Animations

Two things.

Backs are stiff and straight, they should be arched and leaning forward.

Knee lift is far too high. Knees are almost 90 degrees, even Usain Bolt can't run with such perfect form. Reduce knee lift by 20%. Looks like the 'high knees' warm up.

The funny thing is if you look at some of the still shots of the game the running animation in still shots looks almost spot on...Could the real problem be the tuning of the game speed???...Sometimes I think the animations look herky jerky because things are moving too fast...I need to see more slow and smooth movements

[hcir87]

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The knees should not go above the waist !

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When I look at willie parker run's straight up with his legs and hip so stiff like a robot. I just don't understand it, when a person runs they lean over and their head leads the way. Look at NBA 2k9 basketball players. they are light years ahead of you guys, that's why NBA Live has failed. You have to keep the RB leaning forward, its like there running while sitting in a chair. Players legs don't move that slow and that high. Keep the players low and Are you guys using humans for the motion caption or a computer ?

I think you guys stop using humans for next gen. Because I just played Ps2 Madden and they are very human like running motion. I would really like to know if your company has stop using pro players like you use to use or is this just a running program. if that's a program you guys really need to start bringing players in.
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[briax87]

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Players running need to be lower when they're close to contact. Running backs with the ball should try to get low if they're running up the middle. If a RB ran upright he'd be asking to get knocked out. If there's an all out sprint to the endzone, the players should be fairly upright but knees have to be lower than they currently are.

It seems right now as though they only have one running animation, I'm fairly sure a speed wr and cb would run differently to a 300+ pound lineman.

[dat swag]

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No your right, I apologize. I am very upset though... I just feel like for the last five years my favorite sport has been absent from video games and its PURE frustration. I'll stop.. thanx man

I know exactly where that comes from bro...I aint mad at ya cause I too feel often like ripping the game...The reality is if we attempt to give them constructive, well thought out opinions and examples we may be more likely to get the changes...In our lifetime.

I say in our lifetime because I'm beginning to think I will never see a game that will capture my imagination and have the fun factor that NFL2k5 gave us back in 04...Even in the midst of NFL2k5 I was still a Madden dude thinking 2k5 was paving the way for a new era in Madden...But much to my surprise here we are 6 years later still comparing Madden 10 to 2k5...Mind boggling

[aurimias]

Re: Madden 10 Problematic Running Animations

Two things.

Backs are stiff and straight, they should be arched and leaning forward.

Knee lift is far too high. Knees are almost 90 degrees, even Usain Bolt can't run with such perfect form. Reduce knee lift by 20%. Looks like the 'high knees' warm up.

I agree with the height of the knees BUT i heard from Ademroski who wen to the community day, said that the players don't actually stay in that running animation for a long time, they actually run like that for a few seconds then change into a different, more smooth running animation....

[The Lob Mob]

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I know exactly where that comes from bro...I aint mad at ya cause I too feel often like ripping the game...The reality is if we attempt to give them constructive, well thought out opinions and examples we may be more likely to get the changes...In our lifetime.

I say in our lifetime because I'm beginning to think I will never see a game that will capture my imagination and have the fun factor that NFL2k5 gave us back in 04...Even in the midst of NFL2k5 I was still a Madden dude thinking 2k5 was paving the way for a new era in Madden...But much to my surprise here we are 6 years later still comparing Madden 10 to 2k5...Mind boggling

Jetpac &dat swag, I completely feel you guys.
You know what's really sad, is that we have to point this out to them, like they don't have eyes & can't see it! Like they don't have (or can't get) qualified individuals on their payroll, who understand the laws of physics, & can implement them into madden. All the money they have, or should I say had, being they have spent a couple BILLION dollars so that they can completely OWN videogame football. They have no motivation or reason to improve or innovate, & why should they. . .they will sell 4 million copies next year, & every year. It's one thing for us to give helpful suggestions & feedback, & another for us to be totally making the game for them for free!!!



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[gabs485]

Re: Madden 10 Problematic Running Animations

Backs are too straight!
They should be lower to the grounds...

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Re: Madden 10 Problematic Running Animations

there is already an animations thread active