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  • Ian_Cummings
    MVP
    • May 2008
    • 1919

    #1

    Whew - PRO-TAK is Much Better Now

    I was a bit concerned with the E3 build (like most of you probably were) that were a lot of times where defenders would just bounce off instead of wrapping up. I am happy to say it is much improved...just played a full game against Donny (I was Vikings, he was Cardinals - he killed me BTW), and it was WAY better ... much more predictable and reliable than the E3 build.

    I dug deeper to see what happened and found out that before E3 there was some tuning being done to dictate when gang tackles could be triggered, and the primary criteria was the angle of the ballcarrier in relation to the ground. Meaning, if a player was about to fall / touch the ground, he shouldn't be able to be gang tackled (obviously because he would warp back to upright). Apparently there were a few bugs in this calculation though, so often times it would think he was leaned over when in fact he wasn't. Now it has been tuned much more appropriately, and the gang tackles are really looking great.

    As a side note, the momentum in PRO-TAK is also much more pronounced as well (and also finally doesn't stop when the players engage...it keeps moving throughout the tackle) Both Beanie Wells and Peterson really felt like they were carrying those first 2 defenders when they had a head of steam...which looked and felt great. Unfortunately I don't have vids but I'll try to get some soon.

    Thought you'd like the update...on to looking at everyone's other favorite issue - the pass rush!

  • Krodis
    Rookie
    • Jul 2008
    • 491

    #2
    Re: Whew - PRO-TAK is much better now.

    Thanks a lot for the update Ian, keep up the good work.

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    • DickDalewood

      #3
      Re: Whew - PRO-TAK is much better now.

      Originally posted by Ian_Cummings_EA
      I was a bit concerned with the E3 build (like most of you probably were) that were a lot of times where defenders would just bounce off instead of wrapping up. I am happy to say it is much improved...just played a full game against Donny (I was Vikings, he was Cardinals - he killed me BTW), and it was WAY better ... much more predictable and reliable than the E3 build.

      I dug deeper to see what happened and found out that before E3 there was some tuning being done to dictate when gang tackles could be triggered, and the primary criteria was the angle of the ballcarrier in relation to the ground. Meaning, if a player was about to fall / touch the ground, he shouldn't be able to be gang tackled (obviously because he would warp back to upright). Apparently there were a few bugs in this calculation though, so often times it would think he was leaned over when in fact he wasn't. Now it has been tuned much more appropriately, and the gang tackles are really looking great.

      As a side note, the momentum in PRO-TAK is also much more pronounced as well (and also finally doesn't stop when the players engage...it keeps moving throughout the tackle) Both Beanie Wells and Peterson really felt like they were carrying those first 2 defenders when they had a head of steam...which looked and felt great. Unfortunately I don't have vids but I'll try to get some soon.

      Thought you'd like the update...on to looking at everyone's other favorite issue - the pass rush!
      Sweet!

      And welcome back

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      • DocHolliday
        Farewell and 'ado
        • Oct 2002
        • 4698

        #4
        Re: Whew - PRO-TAK is much better now.

        Ian the Pass Rush seems to be the final thing you guys need to knock this out of the park!

        Get those DE's down field!
        GT: Event Horizon 0

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        • earaylewis
          Banned
          • May 2009
          • 147

          #5
          Re: Whew - PRO-TAK is much better now.

          Pro TAk look awesome

          good job

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          • JBucc
            Pro
            • Jul 2007
            • 517

            #6
            Re: Whew - PRO-TAK is much better now.

            Sounds good! I definitely though some of the tackles in the E3 vids looked weird, glad to see it's been fixed.

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            • bowdown2shadi
              MVP
              • Sep 2008
              • 2385

              #7
              Re: Whew - PRO-TAK is much better now.

              Thanks, Ian. Sounds great.

              We welcome all gameplay vids man, so please try your best to get as many up

              Thanks man, because of you and the rest of the gang, yall got my $60.

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              • countryboy
                Growing pains
                • Sep 2003
                • 52762

                #8
                Re: Whew - PRO-TAK is much better now.

                Originally posted by Ian_Cummings_EA
                I was a bit concerned with the E3 build (like most of you probably were) that were a lot of times where defenders would just bounce off instead of wrapping up. I am happy to say it is much improved...just played a full game against Donny (I was Vikings, he was Cardinals - he killed me BTW), and it was WAY better ... much more predictable and reliable than the E3 build.

                I dug deeper to see what happened and found out that before E3 there was some tuning being done to dictate when gang tackles could be triggered, and the primary criteria was the angle of the ballcarrier in relation to the ground. Meaning, if a player was about to fall / touch the ground, he shouldn't be able to be gang tackled (obviously because he would warp back to upright). Apparently there were a few bugs in this calculation though, so often times it would think he was leaned over when in fact he wasn't. Now it has been tuned much more appropriately, and the gang tackles are really looking great.

                As a side note, the momentum in PRO-TAK is also much more pronounced as well (and also finally doesn't stop when the players engage...it keeps moving throughout the tackle) Both Beanie Wells and Peterson really felt like they were carrying those first 2 defenders when they had a head of steam...which looked and felt great. Unfortunately I don't have vids but I'll try to get some soon.

                Thought you'd like the update...on to looking at everyone's other favorite issue - the pass rush!


                Thanks for the update Ian.
                I can't shave with my eyes closed, meaning each day I have to look at myself in the mirror and respect who I see.

                I miss the old days of Operation Sports :(


                Louisville Cardinals/St.Louis Cardinals

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                • MVP23
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 329

                  #9
                  Re: Whew - PRO-TAK is much better now.

                  U also need to work on the Running animations. How about we get some videos on the Wr and db fighting for the ball.
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                  • JHova1982
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 227

                    #10
                    Re: Whew - PRO-TAK is much better now.

                    for the pass rush IAN. just dont make the D-line fall, let them stand they ground or get push back or you can input the O-line getting push down by the D-LINE.

                    IMO its just not realistic that defensive players that engage the O-line only goes one way in the struggle and thats defensive players getting put on there butts and the other standing tall and talented

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                    • PantherBeast_OS
                      RKO!!
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 6636

                      #11
                      Re: Whew - PRO-TAK is much better now.

                      Originally posted by DocHolliday
                      Ian the Pass Rush seems to be the final thing you guys need to knock this out of the park!

                      Get those DE's down field!
                      Yea he has done noted that on the top of things he needs to do this week. He already said on twitter the other day that they will fix the pass rush this week. So nothing to worry bout. Thanks for the update Ian. Keep it up bro.:wink:

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                      • thmst30
                        MVP
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 4153

                        #12
                        Re: Whew - PRO-TAK is much better now.

                        THANK YOU!!! That was my #1 concern from the E3 vids. Where defenders were bouncing off tackles just like they always have. Good to know it was a tuning issue and is already fixed. Seriously that's HUGE news to me. Rock on Ian!

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                        • cedwebb
                          MVP
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 1160

                          #13
                          Re: Whew - PRO-TAK is much better now.

                          Nice to hear buddy! Care to share a little footage from that game you played. In all the vids we have seen there has not been any real AP vids, such a shame as he defines fighting for the extra yard!

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                          • SteelerSpartan
                            MVP
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 2884

                            #14
                            Re: Whew - PRO-TAK is much better now.

                            Sounds good

                            Yeah the Pass Rush needs some help too...teams like the Giants should be able to get good pressure with just 4

                            It would be great, if in a couple of weeks we could get another Vid of you guys playing SIM like last year
                            Here We Go Steelers!!! Here We Go!!!

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                            • Jamin23
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 2751

                              #15
                              Re: Whew - PRO-TAK is much better now.

                              can we get some screen shots, or possibly a video?
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