Most new features in Madden 10 still a work in progress?

[XtremeDunkz]

Now don't get me wrong, I applaud Ian and the entire team for the MAJOR turnaround from 09-10, and I will be in line at midnight to pick this up and play it all year long. But after going through alot of features I just realized that a good amount of them are not completely done. It is great to have all these new features, but personally, I would rather have less features that are all 100% fleshed out.

For example:

Refs (don't throw penalty flags)

Acc Clock (no option to run under 2 mins)

Online Franchise (numerous things missing)

Adaptive AI (on defense but not offense)

Online co-op (but only against the cpu)

Extra Point (wrap ups but no highlights)

I know all of these things will be fixed/added to for Madden 2011, and unfortunately these things being still a work in progress has me already looking forward to 2011 before Madden 10 is even released.

[BayAreaRYder226]

Re: Most new features in Madden 10 still a work in progress?

Now don't get me wrong, I applaud Ian and the entire team for the MAJOR turnaround from 09-10, and I will be in line at midnight to pick this up and play it all year long. But after going through alot of features I just realized that a good amount of them are not completely done. It is great to have all these new features, but personally, I would rather have less features that are all 100% fleshed out.

For example:

Refs (don't throw penalty flags)

Acc Clock (no option to run under 2 mins)

Online Franchise (numerous things missing)

Adaptive AI (on defense but not offense)

Online co-op (but only against the cpu)

Extra Point (wrap ups but no highlights)

I know all of these things will be fixed/added to for Madden 2011, and unfortunately these things being still a work in progress has me already looking forward to 2011 before Madden 10 is even released.

is 2 and 4 confirmed, or just unknown right now?

[PantherBeast_OS]

Re: Most new features in Madden 10 still a work in progress?

Now don't get me wrong, I applaud Ian and the entire team for the MAJOR turnaround from 09-10, and I will be in line at midnight to pick this up and play it all year long. But after going through alot of features I just realized that a good amount of them are not completely done. It is great to have all these new features, but personally, I would rather have less features that are all 100% fleshed out.

For example:

Refs (don't throw penalty flags)

Acc Clock (no option to run under 2 mins)

Online Franchise (numerous things missing)

Adaptive AI (on defense but not offense)

Online co-op (but only against the cpu)

Extra Point (wrap ups but no highlights)

I know all of these things will be fixed/added to for Madden 2011, and unfortunately these things being still a work in progress has me already looking forward to 2011 before Madden 10 is even released.

I all I can say is this stuff will be address and fixed in madden 11. I don't think these few things are going to ruin madden 10. Also the online things you are talking bout is hopefully going to get addressed after the release of the game. Ian has done said things like the salary cap and contracts con be add later since this a web base problem. In other words these problems have nothing to do with the disc. So these problems will get addressed after the release. But the other stuff will get worked on in madden 11.

[Dynamite]

Re: Most new features in Madden 10 still a work in progress?

I all I can say is this stuff will be address and fixed in madden 11. I don't think these few things are going to ruin madden 10. Also the online things you are talking bout is hopefully going to get addressed after the release of the game. Ian has done said things like the salary cap and contracts con be add later since this a web base problem. In other words these problems have nothing to do with the disc. So these problems will get addressed after the release. But the other stuff will get worked on in madden 11.

That's the problem. We shouldn't be looking forward to the next game before the current one comes out, and we definitely shouldn't be worrying if features are making it into the game with their full expectations met. There's no reason why any of these features should be in without them being "completed" and most certainly with most of these, it's a here's the barebones feature you wanted, but missing this that makes it really go.

It's like be careful what you wish for, but with Madden. I am still excited to play this game though, because for a good bit of time, I was pretty impressed with 09, however short-lived it was.

[TheCreep]

Re: Most new features in Madden 10 still a work in progress?

That's the problem. We shouldn't be looking forward to the next game before the current one comes out, and we definitely shouldn't be worrying if features are making it into the game with their full expectations met. There's no reason why any of these features should be in without them being "completed" and most certainly with most of these, it's a here's the barebones feature you wanted, but missing this that makes it really go.

It's like be careful what you wish for, but with Madden. I am still excited to play this game though, because for a good bit of time, I was pretty impressed with 09, however short-lived it was.

I still am very impressed with 09 actually. I could see the turnaround coming in 08. I knew it was about to start getting good.

Reference the new features not being polished 100%. I think it'll be close enough and a very enjoyable title this year. I wonder if there is another level of pro tak yet to be implemented? I honestly cant see it going any further than what we have now. I think the 9 man level is the last we'll see, just with more tweaks and polish in the coming years.

[rckabillyRaider]

Re: Most new features in Madden 10 still a work in progress?

I agree. All the new features do look to be incomplete. Its almost as if we are getting a Madden 11 beta build this August.

However, I will definitely be buying it this year and it looks like it will be a very solid game overall.

[Sanchez_Mareno]

Re: Most new features in Madden 10 still a work in progress?

Its almost as if we are getting a Madden 11 beta build this August.

This

[mrprice33]

Re: Most new features in Madden 10 still a work in progress?

Do you all not understand how much work it has taken to get madden to this point? Tiburon looks to be making the biggest single year leap in the history of madden, and you're still complaining? What more do you want?

[daplayawitdafunk]

Re: Most new features in Madden 10 still a work in progress?

This year product is the result of past years failures. They are adding things that should have already been there in the past. Because it is so much material they can only do surface level type stuff. This Madden 10 should have been Madden 06 or 07 at the latest. This truly is a new beginning. But at the same time they have to give you a reason to buy Madden 11. Madden or EA never gives the consumer the whole pie. They are notorious for leaving you wanting more. Its seems as if they prefer to build slowly, rather than create constantly. Pro-Tak is really the only innovative thing we are getting this year. And that I am thankful for.

[Netherscourge]

Re: Most new features in Madden 10 still a work in progress?

If EA let the Madden guys make a "complete" game, they'd lose their annual meal ticket.

Madden is the carrot on a stick.

If you let the horse eat the carrot, the horse will stop moving.

[Ian_Cummings]

Re: Most new features in Madden 10 still a work in progress?

IMHO Madden is always a work in progress. You can call these 'incomplete' if you like but as a team we have to make the call to either build for the future or cram stuff in that people haven't asked for. To me, Madden 10 is still the deepest feature set and most fun version we have ever made. If your focus is only on what's missing, that's really an endless argument as no game in history has everything right? Do people complain that you can't fly the chopper in COD? Expectations are so different for every person but at some level it would be nice if folks realized that we aren't shipping an 'incomplete' game...we are shipping a game that will ALWAYS be improved upon.

Would you prefer no refs or refs that don't throw flags?
No recap show or a recap show that can be built on?
No co-op or 2 player co-op?
No online franchise or a server-based online franchise that can be updated?

I'm not really posing these questions to you guys...these are the decisions we had to make.

[Ian_Cummings]

Re: Most new features in Madden 10 still a work in progress?

P.S. Adaptive AI works on both offense and defense. And, accel clock in the final 2 was strictly a design decision, not a 'missing' feature.

[FadeEmAll]

Re: Most new features in Madden 10 still a work in progress?

Naw mayne you guys did a good job this year. You know how I feel lol

[daplayawitdafunk]

Re: Most new features in Madden 10 still a work in progress?

IMHO Madden is always a work in progress. You can call these 'incomplete' if you like but as a team we have to make the call to either build for the future or cram stuff in that people haven't asked for. To me, Madden 10 is still the deepest feature set and most fun version we have ever made. If your focus is only on what's missing, that's really an endless argument as no game in history has everything right? Do people complain that you can't fly the chopper in COD? Expectations are so different for every person but at some level it would be nice if folks realized that we aren't shipping an 'incomplete' game...we are shipping a game that will ALWAYS be improved upon.

Would you prefer no refs or refs that don't throw flags?
No recap show or a recap show that can be built on?
No co-op or 2 player co-op?
No online franchise or a server-based online franchise that can be updated?

I'm not really posing these questions to you guys...these are the decisions we had to make.

They are necessary decisions and I personally appreciate the effort. These are definitely things that will be built upon in future Madden games. Madden 10 may very well be the best Madden yet, but we see the potential for the game and everything is leading towards Madden 11, not Madden 10. I blame the past for the present, but look forward to the present setting up the future. At the end of the day, as long as the game plays great and feels greats complaints will be few and far between.

[FadeEmAll]

Re: Most new features in Madden 10 still a work in progress?

Refs (don't throw penalty flags) {Who cares}

Acc Clock (no option to run under 2 mins) {Again who cares}

Online Franchise (numerous things missing) {Totally agree hopefully this server thing will actually be used to fix these issues}

Adaptive AI (on defense but not offense) {I don't think that's entirely true}

Online co-op (but only against the cpu) {Online Co-OP is over-rated. I promise this feature will not be as cool as it seems. When was the last time you and a friend actually played on the same team? I used to have the 4 man hook up for Madden on PS2- lasted about a day

Extra Point (wrap ups but no highlights) {I guess I can agree here too, but I swear people ask for this just because it was in 2K5, how many really care to watch a highlight show?}