Can't we all just get along?

[IN13NSE]

Quote: Originally Posted by WolfpackJk

[YOUTUBE VIDEO] now real life: well i cant find a video with a RB catching in motion but in man coverage real life that wouldnt have happen

You go to a Madden 07 video and find a AI exploit, which doesn't even have anything to do with simulation.

I already stated that I agree that Madden has flaws in it. But, Madden is a simulation of NFL football.

[WolfpackJk]

Quote: Originally Posted by droopizzle34

real life...... video game..... real life...... video game.... there is a difference right?

yeah it should be a difference but its the margin of difference that defines a great simulation game even if that games has flaws.

[kehlis]

Awesome. We are now bringing up Madden 07.

I have now seen it all in this thread.

[IN13NSE]

Quote: Originally Posted by WolfpackJk

yeah it should be a difference but its the margin of difference that defines a great simulation game even if that games has flaws.

Great..?

When was there talk about a great simulation game...

Madden
APF
2k5

all have flaws, which make them all not "great" simulations of football... but they all do simulation the real life game.

How can you not see that?

[WolfpackJk]

Quote: Originally Posted by IN13NSE

You go to a Madden 07 video and find a AI exploit, which doesn't even have anything to do with simulation. I already stated that I agree that Madden has flaws in it. But, Madden is a simulation of NFL football.

you have your opinion on SIM and i have mine. i dont simply call madden a SIM just because it has the ability to call hike and have colored cleats. you have to show that your gameplay can duplicate your real life counterpart in every aspect that its played on the field and madden hasnt show me that so therefore its not a SIM, its just MADDEN

[IN13NSE]

Quote: Originally Posted by WolfpackJk

you have your opinion on SIM and i have mine. i dont simply call madden a SIM just because it has the ability to call hike and have colored cleats. you have to show that your gameplay can duplicate your real life counterpart in every aspect that its played on the field and madden hasnt show me that so therefore its not a SIM, its just MADDEN

You can wait for you "perfect" simulation game, that plays exactly like RL... I'll play Madden which simulates NFL football in a video game.

[WolfpackJk]

Quote: Originally Posted by IN13NSE

Great..? When was there talk about a great simulation game... Madden APF 2k5 all have flaws, which make them all not "great" simulations of football... but they all do simulation the real life game. How can you not see that?

i believe APF is a true SIM football game that best presents the NFL toward a gameplay standpoint and yes i do know all the flaws but even with the flaws the stuff i see on APF i can switch to the NFL network and see a similar situation in every aspects on the field(offense, defense, special teams, penalties, etc..). i cant say that for madden

[apexbronx]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ian_Cummings_EA

To re-iterate (to you and Moody), we aren't "talking trash". The thread was "which would you choose - backbreaker or Pro-Tak", and I chose that opportunity to explain Euphoria in a little more detail (and the flaws as I see them) and actually pose the question to the community as to which they'd prefer. If the majority wants Euphoria, then I can go use that when making decisions towards the future. Instead, many people use that situation to start a war rather than actually help sway future design direction. PS - you can't make a flawless game.