Madden 10 referees are ghosts?

[bomza]

I am both impressed by the Madden 10 videos and the demos I've played and a bit worried also. (Gotta report both the good and the bad, right?)

They have a lot of really nice videos over at IGN of Madden 10 that were just posted in the last few days that you can look at and gawk over, but this one has me wondering if the referees they put back in Madden 10 are ghosts.

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14270629/madden-nfl-2010/videos/madden10_gmp_maddenmoments_colts_72209.html

Check out this video posted about 3 days ago at IGN at about the :59 mark as one referee runs nonchalantly through, not over a Vikings player on the ground to make the TD call, and then about 5 seconds later, Joseph Addai turns and without hesitating at all, walks straight through the other "ghost" referee.

Are "Ian and the Tweakers" aware of this I hope?

[The2ndComing8]

Re: Madden 10 referees are ghosts?

I am almost positive they did this on purpose.

[ProjectSRT]

Re: Madden 10 referees are ghosts?

Yea i know when you run into a ref they'll just get hit and fall over but your momentum wont be impeded. Im POSITIVE had they not of gone this route, the first person who was knocked over by a ref would be on here screaming about horrible AI. This is better until the Madden community matures(which is more than likely never.)

[maddenps2]

Re: Madden 10 referees are ghosts?

I'm sure they will fix it for next year, atleast they have refs now.

[beefandpork]

Re: Madden 10 referees are ghosts?

Earlier this year we were told teh ref's fall over when you run into them. I bet the NFL had something to do with them taking that out

[WFColonel56]

Re: Madden 10 referees are ghosts?

Earlier this year we were told teh ref's fall over when you run into them. I bet the NFL had something to do with them taking that out

The refs still fall over....they just dont impact your speed/momentum when you hit them.....Its funny to see a replay where my WR runs into a ref while running his route and the ref gets owned

[MelMan1486]

Re: Madden 10 referees are ghosts?

I'm sure they will fix it for next year, atleast they have refs now.

Exactly... it's just nice to see them on the field now. There's only room for improvement now, they only got a year.

[WFColonel56]

Re: Madden 10 referees are ghosts?

IMO ghost refs are the way to go.
You still see them, they still can hide defensive players behind them (which I hate in the 1 min demo vs the cowboys in the SNOW)

And as said b4, If a ref knocks you down in a game you would be the 1st person talking about it on the forums.....So imo its great the way it is

[maddenps2]

Re: Madden 10 referees are ghosts?

IMO ghost refs are the way to go.
You still see them, they still can hide defensive players behind them (which I hate in the 1 min demo vs the cowboys in the SNOW)

And as said b4, If a ref knocks you down in a game you would be the 1st person talking about it on the forums.....So imo its great the way it is

Who cares if someone talks or whines about something!, that's going happen regardless, if the developers worried about whiners nothing would be implemented into madden.

[CoHouse2814]

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i think someone brought this up before but i was a guest so i couldnt respond but he surely got slammed by OS but my feelings are that ref should not be ghosts and players should be affected by them if they are in the way.

ill see if i can find that thread but thats not cool if it in the final build but this is a demo

here's the thread:http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/333891-madden-nfl-10-preview-tgr.html

[bomza]

Re: Madden 10 referees are ghosts?

i think someone brought this up before but i was a guest so i couldnt respond but he surely got slammed by OS but my feelings are that ref should not be ghosts and players should be affected by them if they are in the way.

ill see if i can find that thread but thats not cool if it in the final build but this is a demo

here's the thread:http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/333891-madden-nfl-10-preview-tgr.html

1) My feelings exactly, refs should be part of the game. If your pass hits them and they're in the way, tough. Your pass should not go through them as if they're not there.
2) Link isn't working for me
3) I don't know what build that is, but that's not the demo because it has the Colts.

[bomza]

Re: Madden 10 referees are ghosts?

Oh oh...
Found another Madden 10 ghost referee example by accident...

This one is in the official snow demo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W65GFS3NInk

[CoHouse2814]

Re: Madden 10 referees are ghosts?

1) My feelings exactly, refs should be part of the game. If your pass hits them and they're in the way, tough. Your pass should not go through them as if they're not there.
2) Link isn't working for me
3) I don't know what build that is, but that's not the demo because it has the Colts.

http://www.operationsports.com/forum...eview-tgr.html

sorry about that

[CoHouse2814]

Re: Madden 10 referees are ghosts?

Oh oh...
Found another Madden 10 ghost referee example by accident...

This one is in the official snow demo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W65GFS3NInk

thats look horrible. i hope thats not in the final build, and what make it worse is that i believe EA dev did it on purpose from looking in that other threah. THIS IS A ON PURPOSE GLITCH....lol

hey in that other thread wolfpackjk is the dude who started the ghost ref convo is gone from the thread. funny cause u see people qoute him but he is not there, maybe he got banned. i didnt know they erase u from existence in OS, thats crazy

[SmashMan]

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I honestly can't believe people care THIS much about the physical states of the referees. I understand that everyone's going to throw around the "If you see it on Sunday" line just to argue their point, but come on. This is just silly.

If you take a step back and look at it from their perspective...imagine the amounts of complaining that would occur if referees interfered in people's plays. What would you do as a designer? I'd wager a fair amount of us would make the same decision these guys did; and that's make the refs reactive, and not interactive. They move, react, and signal appropriately. No, we cannot run into them. Is this really that big of an issue?