Should Madden consider adding COMPOSURE and CONSISTENCY ratings for players?

[DarkFudge]

Just a thought, what do you think?.....


I think this element of attribute is the one area that is missing from the game.

Arent some players more consistent in playing up to their potential (ratings) while others can be great but then be equally poor. How is this defined?


Also, some players maintain their composure while others get easily rattled when things go amuck.....Should this be represented in the game as well?


thoughts


BTW, Im loving the distinction this year in player abilities and performances on the field. Finally Madden has met or even eclipsed what 2K Football was able to do in this area back in 2K5 and 2K8. Good Job EA!...Im really enjoying the complexity and diversity of this year's game!

[DarkFudge]

Re: Should Madden consider adding COMPOSURE and CONSISTENCY ratings for players?

any thoughts at all?

[Only1LT]

Re: Should Madden consider adding COMPOSURE and CONSISTENCY ratings for players?

This is a feature, like many, that was in previous Madden's. It was a good idea, don't remember if it really impacted the game at all. In fact, I'm sure that it didn't, because all but the top flight rookies had poor composure ratings, and they still played fine.

If implemented well it could be interesting, but the way that it has been done, it was just another rating that had little impact on the gameplay.

[K_GUN]

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YES!

they need a consistency rating for sure

[shep64]

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I think this could be great, and actually might be the answer to draft flops/gems in franchise. sure the current system, isn't broken and it is too easy to scout, and there should still be middle and late round steals but 9 times out of 10 a guy rated 49 overall wont go in the 1st round. It just wont happen, guys drafted that high all have the physical ability to play and are pretty decent, the biggest question for most 1st rounders is the mental side of the NFL. Think Ryan Leaf, guy had it all, but consistency and composure. So guys that have high composure should progress, only increase and only increase slightly over his career. Guys that don't shouldn't progress much if any if they cant stay composed. And consistency could increase a lot, or decrease a lot of the player becomes unhappy. If done well wouldn't that just be neat-o.

Seriously this is an amazing idea.

[davep]

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I'm getting concerned that there are soooo many rating nowadays that I'm sure many just cancel each other out, rendering them useless.

[SA1NT401]

Re: Should Madden consider adding COMPOSURE and CONSISTENCY ratings for players?

Just a thought, what do you think?.....


I think this element of attribute is the one area that is missing from the game.

Arent some players more consistent in playing up to their potential (ratings) while others can be great but then be equally poor. How is this defined?


Also, some players maintain their composure while others get easily rattled when things go amuck.....Should this be represented in the game as well?


thoughts


BTW, Im loving the distinction this year in player abilities and performances on the field. Finally Madden has met or even eclipsed what 2K Football was able to do in this area back in 2K5 and 2K8. Good Job EA!...Im really enjoying the complexity and diversity of this year's game!

EA will NEVER pass 2K if you ask me.

but back to your idea. Like it alot. It should be there. Honestly, something besides ratings need to take over....Cuz YET AGIN, ratings really on consider 5 core aspects and NOTHING more. WAY too many meaningless ratings.

[wheelman990]

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Sure, if ratings mattered. As it stands, they dont, so why add more? Consist should be one of the most useful ratings in a football game.

[NoDakHusker]

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I'm getting concerned that there are soooo many rating nowadays that I'm sure many just cancel each other out, rendering them useless.

very good point. there are too many ratings that I dont think the game even factors in half of them. madden should revamp its ratings system.

[Snoop24]

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I think more ratings are a good thing. A composure rating would be awesome. Rookies could have a low composure that would affect their overall performance and then it could improve if they have good games.

[Meast21Forever]

Re: Should Madden consider adding COMPOSURE and CONSISTENCY ratings for players?

Sure, if ratings mattered. As it stands, they dont, so why add more? Consist should be one of the most useful ratings in a football game.

Couldn't disagree more. Ratings matter more in this Madden than any of its predecessors.

My issue with this is that it's not particularly measurable. Like speed, tackling, jumping, throw power, etc. - those things can be measured. How would one measure composure or consistency? Maybe in established veterans, sure, but what about rookies? What about 2nd or 3rd year guys who haven't gotten their shot to break out yet? Would they perform badly in Madden because Donnie Moore says so? It's the same issue I have with potential. A player who was a stand out in college comes in to madden with his rating already capped. I don't see the logic. There is none. A 'team' of ratings guys decides a players abilities on Madden. I prefer to leave that to the players themselves. Ratings that can't be measured are just too hard to implement.

[SoxFan01605]

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In theory, yes...it would be a valued addition. In reality? I dunno. I mean, much of what I read on this board is how they can't program things properly (namely AI logic) and we want them to ADD two things that mess with the way logic is handled? Yikes.

Composure (and to a lesser degree, consistency) can do a lot more to mess up a game than help it if it's not done right IMO. I like the idea, I just don't know that Madden is ready yet...lol.

[txfalconfan]

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i think composure would be good as a rating and consistency even better. I also think there are too many ratings and some dont work well for the fact that with good man and/or zone coverage ratings you can use an lb as a safety and his ovr will go up 10+ points. IE. boss bailey.

[DarkFudge]

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guys good points so let me just throw this out there to chew on...

In the NFL, there many players that are very talented and play solid but lack consistent performances week in and week out. Off the top of my head, Brett Farve is a good example. He can be a tremendous gamer on some weeks and on others he can look like a total mess.

Madden has no attribute or algorithm to factor in his inconsistent performances....So in theory, if he was rated a high 90 (for arguments sake) Each week, he would be performing within the parameters of a high 90 player ....consistently. I think the engine would be more realistic if there was an Attribute like CONSISTENCY from 1-100. The closer the rating is to 100, the more likely a player will repeatedly perform to his other potential ratings.

Perhaps Consistency could be a week to week thing whereas a COMPOSURE rating could be a play to play thing in which players with low composure ratings would less likely play to their stats during certain critical situations or after they screwed up.

Im almost sure that 2K actually had these ratings and a few others if Im not mistaken. And I think that is why the 2K football games always had alot of player performance diversity and organic feeling gameplay that Madden could never really duplicate.

On a plus note for Madden, I have to disagree a bit with those that stated that ratings dont mean anything in Madden. For years, I actually would agree with this, but this year, I have to say, I really feel the distinctions between the various players around the league and even in the same positions. It may be a little early for me to say that it has surpassed 2K, but it feels close to me. Im really seeing the variety in the ratings translate to appropriate performances more than any Madden I've ever played.


What I WOULD like to seriously suggest to the MADDEN team even if they dont add the composure and consistency ratings is to SERIOUSLY consider consolidating the actual VIEW of specific ratings based on position. What I simply mean by this is, design the player ratings pages to only pull up RATINGS that affect the player's position. and keep the others hidden. For example, its a real PIA to have to scroll accross so many meaningless attributes like Press Release, Trucking, Pass Blocking, or Kick accuracy to get to my Quarterbacks DEEP Accuracy Rating. See what I mean? The useless one's should be hidden or greyed out.

[Jono078]

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Composure I don't think is needed.

That is basically what Awareness is for.

Consistency though is needed. A player can have all the skill he wants, but unless he can produce his best week in week out it doesn't matter.

But even then, I'm not so sure that rating would do anything either, that's why we have player overalls basically. A Peyton Manning is a 99 OVR because he is that good and does it each week.