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  • Articula
    Rookie
    • Dec 2008
    • 74

    #1

    QB Vision Cone - Bring it back (with a caveat)

    Make this an option that can be turned on/off. I always thought it was wrong to completely trash it being that a lot of people loved this feature. This would allow sim players more realism while allow arcade players to play the game they want to play it.
  • Perfect Zero
    1B, OF
    • Jun 2005
    • 4012

    #2
    Re: QB Vision Cone - Bring it back (with a caveat)

    Because sim always equals a flashlight over your helmet.
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    • vaderdog
      Rookie
      • Jul 2009
      • 150

      #3
      Re: QB Vision Cone - Bring it back (with a caveat)

      I'm with ya OP. Loved the cone. And I love options. Options allow choices. Different choices allow different people to play the way they want. If you like it, turn it on. If not, turn it off. Why are some people such @$$3$?
      XBOX GT -- vaderdog

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      • Articula
        Rookie
        • Dec 2008
        • 74

        #4
        Re: QB Vision Cone - Bring it back (with a caveat)

        Some of the "Cone Enhancements" I'd like to see.
        • Higher rated QB's able to move vision cone across field faster
        • Higher rated QB's have larger vision cones
        • Cone can get larger/smaller depending on QB's ability to throw to certain parts of the field

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        • nuckles2k2
          MVP
          • Sep 2006
          • 1922

          #5
          Re: QB Vision Cone - Bring it back (with a caveat)

          Originally posted by Perfect Zero
          Because sim always equals a flashlight over your helmet.
          I guess it also equals icons over receivers' heads and a big read circle indicating where the ball might land...

          That argument is played out now, time for a new excuse.

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          • Articula
            Rookie
            • Dec 2008
            • 74

            #6
            Re: QB Vision Cone - Bring it back (with a caveat)

            Originally posted by Perfect Zero
            Because sim always equals a flashlight over your helmet.
            You obviously have nothing to add to the thread so please leave it.

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            • da ThRONe
              Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
              • Mar 2009
              • 8528

              #7
              Re: QB Vision Cone - Bring it back (with a caveat)

              QB vision isnt sim! It isnt a QB ability to see better it his ability to process info quickly the seperate them from good and bad.
              You looking at the Chair MAN!

              Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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              • Pared
                Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                • Feb 2003
                • 39337

                #8
                Re: QB Vision Cone - Bring it back (with a caveat)

                I loved the cone as well. Heck give it options:

                -Make the cone semi transparent as an option. The "flashlight" excuse is just that: an excuse
                -Should be off by default
                -Let users turn it on as they'd like; Make this an option in a custom, private game online

                Heck, I'd even like it to get a little more difficult and not allow you to see your receivers icon unless you're looking at him.
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                • vaderdog
                  Rookie
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 150

                  #9
                  Re: QB Vision Cone - Bring it back (with a caveat)

                  And since we don't have a "sim" way to get into there head and see how that process works, an arcade flashlight was a welcome addition to simulate that process.
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                  • Pared
                    Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                    • Feb 2003
                    • 39337

                    #10
                    Re: QB Vision Cone - Bring it back (with a caveat)

                    Originally posted by da ThRONe
                    QB vision isnt sim! It isnt a QB ability to see better it his ability to process info quickly the seperate them from good and bad.
                    So then you make the cone swap receivers faster on better QB's than others.

                    Again, simple solution. Options are always better.
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                    • Articula
                      Rookie
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 74

                      #11
                      Re: QB Vision Cone - Bring it back (with a caveat)

                      Originally posted by Pared
                      I loved the cone as well. Heck give it options:

                      -Make the cone semi transparent as an option. The "flashlight" excuse is just that: an excuse
                      -Should be off by default
                      -Let users turn it on as they'd like; Make this an option in a custom, private game online

                      Heck, I'd even like it to get a little more difficult and not allow you to see your receivers icon unless you're looking at him.
                      Very interesting - although QB's do tend to know where there WR's are for the most part.

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                      • Perfect Zero
                        1B, OF
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 4012

                        #12
                        Re: QB Vision Cone - Bring it back (with a caveat)

                        You asked, so I answered. I personally can't move the right stick, look all over the field for my receivers while looking at my line, then setting and throwing for the entire game. If they would fix the way you directed the ball, and if they would actually make ratings work, then there would be none of this.

                        I'm already looking at the receiver, so why should I have to add an extra motion for something that's as easy to fix as making the rating work. The cone took away from presentation, it took away from accessibility, and it sucked the fun out of the game. There's a reason why Ian made that April Fool's Day joke with QB Vision 3.0.
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                        • Pared
                          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                          • Feb 2003
                          • 39337

                          #13
                          Re: QB Vision Cone - Bring it back (with a caveat)

                          You're right articula, but the thing is a QB doesn't throw at a guy without looking at him. The cone, IMO, always simulated this. (Head movement)

                          Zero,

                          I never used the analog stick. That method was clumsy, IMO. You could also Hold LT (L2) and you'd have to double tap the receiver icon to make the throw. Once to look at a guy, another to throw the ball.
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                          • Perfect Zero
                            1B, OF
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 4012

                            #14
                            Re: QB Vision Cone - Bring it back (with a caveat)

                            Originally posted by Pared
                            You're right articula, but the thing is a QB doesn't throw at a guy without looking at him. The cone, IMO, always simulated this.
                            Wasn't that supposed to be fixed with that first thing Ian put out about the QB following the ball?
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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #15
                              Re: QB Vision Cone - Bring it back (with a caveat)

                              Remember, you have a birds-eye view of the field. That's completely unrealistic. If you're looking strong side, you shouldn't know where the guys are on the weak side.

                              That was the purpose of the vision cone.

                              It can certainly be reimplemented in more realistic fashion. But it wasn't entirely out of the question... at least the idea.

                              Zero,

                              Not sure what you mean.
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