How I Learned To Run In Madden 10

[don28]

I'm playing a franchise with the Kansas City Chiefs (my 2nd favorite team after the Titans.) The Chiefs' offensive line is one of the worst, if not the worst, in the game. I spent time experimenting and reading the boards, and found something that has made running the ball possible again.

I have called aggressive blocking on the slide protection most of the time on running plays. On plays where the defense has pinched their defenders close together, I may call the pinch blocking slide protection. Combine this with game speed of VERY SLOW and ALL-PRO skill level, I am able to average 4.0 yards per carry with the Chiefs. Against Minnesota, I even managed a respectable 3.7 yards per carry.

The standard running game logic applies. DO NOT press sprint as soon as the ball is snapped. Also, wait a half-second for the blocks to develop before running forward. That half-second is making the difference between being stuffed or finding a hole to run into.

Anyone else doing this?

[Bears_16_and_0]

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ive been begging for someone to explain exactly what 'aggressive' does, but no answers. I think it does help in the running game a little though from what ive seen. I played a my-skill 7minute franchise with the bears and I probably averaged maybe 3.5 with forte =(

I think some of the problem is that apparently the CPU AI comes out in their base D like almost everytime on 1st and 10 and 2nd down. This means that If I try to run out of like a 3wide single back, the CPU isn't playing nickel. I think I have to get in I if I want to have a chance to run...

[don28]

Re: How I Learned To Run In Madden 10

More times than not, I wind up passing on first down because of the CPU AI playing the run almost every time. I change it up every so often, because the CPU actually does seem to adjust if it's done every time.

Also, set the audibles to have one HB Dive play as well as one HB outside run play. This way I can audible on the defense if their favoring one type over another.

[crumpled_heap]

Re: How I Learned To Run In Madden 10

Slide protection is only supposed to be used on passing plays.

[don28]

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In the Prima Madden Guide, it recommends using slide protection when the defense stacks the side of the line you plan to run towards. So I started trying the slide protection as left and right, but it was too inconsistent. I decided to try aggressive since the linemen seemed too passive for my liking without slide protection. If the blocking was better I wouldn't bother.

[JerzeyReign]

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R u guys serious? Wow, but aggressive doesn't always work. use that against the blitz. I honestly thought everybody knew that already, no offense 2 any1 but wowwwwww

[Bears_16_and_0]

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if the developers or anyone could explain exactly what aggressive does that would be great. It is the only slide protection that doesnt have strengths and weakness lined out in even the prima strategy guide....

[burne]

Re: How I Learned To Run In Madden 10

Slide protection is only supposed to be used on passing plays.

It's only supposed to be used on passing plays, but it has an effect on running plays if you call it. Try calling left and right on running plays and you'll see your linemen doing the little slide left or right.

[don28]

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R u guys serious? Wow, but aggressive doesn't always work. use that against the blitz. I honestly thought everybody knew that already, no offense 2 any1 but wowwwwww

Nothing always works. But calling aggressive and having a run stuffed by a blitz is reality. When gaining 2 yards is comparable to a fight to the death without aggressive slide protection, I'll stick to calling aggressive more times than not.

I want to run the football. If that means calling aggressive slide protection, so be it. Sometimes I'll get burned, sometimes I'll gain good yardage, and once in a while I will rip off a long run.

[Whammer]

Re: How I Learned To Run In Madden 10

Aggresive causes your line to fire out and get on their blocks. Slide protection works for run plays.

[datruth]

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Before I get started you must know it is absolutely a MUST to NOT use sprint at the start of a running play especially inside running plays. The slower you move in the beginning the easier it is for your OLine to know who to block.

Slide protect absolutely helps on running plays. I have been using this for about 2-3 weeks now and my running game has gone from a 30-40 ypg average to a 50-90 ypg average online with 5 min acc clock.

This is how I am using it:

Slide left or right to seal the outside end on runs to the outside. ie. if I'm running a stretch play to the right I will slide protect left. This will make the strong side TE turn and try and seal the LE or SAM. I say try b/c if you have a weak run blocking TE your results will vary.

Also, your WR on the strong side will make a very conscious effort to cut the DB or push him to the inside giving you a clear path up the sideline. Sometimes I motion the slot inside, hike the ball as he approaches the outside defender to get better results on a seal block. When doing this I've even seen the smaller WR cut block a bigger stronger LB giving me a big gain.

The bad with using this is, if the LE or SAM beats your T or TE you will be dropped in the back field for a nice loss. If the DLine slides outside your TE and slants to the strong side of the play is over before it even started.

I am experimenting with using it on inside runs now and have found no benefits as of yet.

Aggressive blocking your OLine on inside running plays will make your oline get a good push up the middle. I use it on Dives and Zone run plays when the Dline is not pinched. Aggressive run blocking is used best short yardage running plays. QB sneaks and FB dives are when I use it most.

Out of all the blocking schemes the results on this one varies the most. I think that's because you don't know what the DLine is doing. If they're running a stunt or blitzing a LB and dropping a DT in coverage the oline AI can get screwed up trying to find who to block.

I've seen aggressive blocking work best when the D is in a regular zone (cov2 cov3) with man on man DLine rushing. The negative on using aggressive blocking is that it's easier for the D to get into the gaps and blow up a inside running play.

Pinch Oline blocking is used on draws and when you know the D is blitzing up the middle. I use this the least out of all the blocking schemes because I don't run draw's all that often. You have a better chance of picking up A gap blitzers using the pinch but results really depend on how well your guard, center, guard combination is compared to the DT, NG, DT. I am experimenting now on pinching my oline and call a inside run play and try and bounce it to the outside.

I recommend going into practice mode and trying out everything above with your favorite team. Make note of you best run blockers and favor that side when calling running plays.

Keep this in mind as well, it's very important to know when your Oline is rested and the DLine is not. This can make the difference of a 2-3 yard gain to a 30-40 yard gain near the end of the game. The right run play called at the right time with a rested Oline and RB using slide protect will equal very big gains!

[don28]

Re: How I Learned To Run In Madden 10

Before I get started you must know it is absolutely a MUST to NOT use sprint at the start of a running play especially inside running plays. The slower you move in the beginning the easier it is for your OLine to know who to block.

Slide protect absolutely helps on running plays. I have been using this for about 2-3 weeks now and my running game has gone from a 30-40 ypg average to a 50-90 ypg average online with 5 min acc clock.

This is how I am using it:

Slide left or right to seal the outside end on runs to the outside. ie. if I'm running a stretch play to the right I will slide protect left. This will make the strong side TE turn and try and seal the LE or SAM. I say try b/c if you have a weak run blocking TE your results will vary.

Also, your WR on the strong side will make a very conscious effort to cut the DB or push him to the inside giving you a clear path up the sideline. Sometimes I motion the slot inside, hike the ball as he approaches the outside defender to get better results on a seal block. When doing this I've even seen the smaller WR cut block a bigger stronger LB giving me a big gain.

The bad with using this is, if the LE or SAM beats your T or TE you will be dropped in the back field for a nice loss. If the DLine slides outside your TE and slants to the strong side of the play is over before it even started.

I am experimenting with using it on inside runs now and have found no benefits as of yet.

Aggressive blocking your OLine on inside running plays will make your oline get a good push up the middle. I use it on Dives and Zone run plays when the Dline is not pinched. Aggressive run blocking is used best short yardage running plays. QB sneaks and FB dives are when I use it most.

Out of all the blocking schemes the results on this one varies the most. I think that's because you don't know what the DLine is doing. If they're running a stunt or blitzing a LB and dropping a DT in coverage the oline AI can get screwed up trying to find who to block.

I've seen aggressive blocking work best when the D is in a regular zone (cov2 cov3) with man on man DLine rushing. The negative on using aggressive blocking is that it's easier for the D to get into the gaps and blow up a inside running play.

Pinch Oline blocking is used on draws and when you know the D is blitzing up the middle. I use this the least out of all the blocking schemes because I don't run draw's all that often. You have a better chance of picking up A gap blitzers using the pinch but results really depend on how well your guard, center, guard combination is compared to the DT, NG, DT. I am experimenting now on pinching my oline and call a inside run play and try and bounce it to the outside.

I recommend going into practice mode and trying out everything above with your favorite team. Make note of you best run blockers and favor that side when calling running plays.

Keep this in mind as well, it's very important to know when your Oline is rested and the DLine is not. This can make the difference of a 2-3 yard gain to a 30-40 yard gain near the end of the game. The right run play called at the right time with a rested Oline and RB using slide protect will equal very big gains!

Thank you. I now have a few more things to try out.

[Hova57]

Re: How I Learned To Run In Madden 10

shifting the left stick left and right or right and left quickly is more effective than right stick juke

[baseballsim]

Re: How I Learned To Run In Madden 10

Against a human opponent you do need to sprint more often, though.

[crumpled_heap]

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Slide left or right to seal the outside end on runs to the outside. ie. if I'm running a stretch play to the right I will slide protect left. This will make the strong side TE turn and try and seal the LE or SAM.

This doesn't make sense. The offensive players should automatically block in the proper direction according to the play called. If they don't, then that is just horrible game design.