2nd Patch Kick Returns FAR too Easy

[JeriousNorwood]

Look, I know someone has brought a thread about this up, but it really needs more attention. After that second patch my special teams will pancake everyone and my blockers will pick up a defender every single time. It's absurd how easy it is to take one to the house. I litterally had to make a house rule for myself where I just have to run straight, but I still get about 40 yards a return. This is against the CPU on All-Madden mind you, I haven't tested this against other humans.

So is anyone else getting frustrated with this? Did EA break something while making this patch?

[countryboy]

Re: 2nd Patch Kick Returns FAR too Easy

I didn't know there was a 2nd patch already...:googloe;

And no, I haven't found it easy to return kicks to the house. I honestly don't see much a difference in the kick returns post patch vs pre-patch.

[JeriousNorwood]

Re: 2nd Patch Kick Returns FAR too Easy

Oops, I meant first patch.

You haven't though? My special teams pancakes everyone now. It's crazy how much it happens. I really do think something changed because if I try I return 2-3 kicks a game. However, punt special teams are still good for the CPU.

[countryboy]

Re: 2nd Patch Kick Returns FAR too Easy

No I haven't noticed a difference. I have yet to take a kick back to the house.

[skoods]

Re: 2nd Patch Kick Returns FAR too Easy

I've taken probably five back before the patch and have not taken any back since. But that's in a much smaller sample size. I think you're just getting lucky. If you have a problem with it, mess with some sliders.

[ziggymundi]

Re: 2nd Patch Kick Returns FAR too Easy

Ive noticed this BIGTIME....Ive returned 7 kicks in about 10 games. That along with many other issues ive noticed since patch 1. Frame rate while running, coverage is worse i think ( i couldnt complete a deep ball to anybody at all, first game post patch, R White- 6 deep ball catches against C Gamble who I have edited pretty high), Rb's and Wr's walk on certain routes now ect ect....Ive decided to delete patch 1...keep in mind these things said here are JUST MY OPINION....so don't freak out on me if you do not concure.......

[Dmacho]

Re: 2nd Patch Kick Returns FAR too Easy

Look, I know someone has brought a thread about this up, but it really needs more attention. After that second patch my special teams will pancake everyone and my blockers will pick up a defender every single time. It's absurd how easy it is to take one to the house. I litterally had to make a house rule for myself where I just have to run straight, but I still get about 40 yards a return. This is against the CPU on All-Madden mind you, I haven't tested this against other humans.

So is anyone else getting frustrated with this? Did EA break something while making this patch?

I don't know if it's broken. I surely don't average 40 yards a return. I do however take kickoffs to the house more in this version, than every other football game I've played; 2k8 was the 2nd most frequent and even with that game I may have done it three or four times in the span of a year. I've had a lot more than that in madden 10 and I haven't owned madden 10 for 2 months. To be fair though, this is the first year that I've actually gone into practice mode to practice kickoff returns.
The patch made no difference in IMO with kick off returns.

Also, does any find return left and right to be totally and utterly useless ? When selecting those(return left or right), the players never set up the wedge in front of me or I simply doing something wrong.

Punt returns are much harder. I've had to long returns; one was agains't someone online, and the other(a TD) was against the CPU.

[Dmacho]

Re: 2nd Patch Kick Returns FAR too Easy

Oops, I meant first patch.

You haven't though? My special teams pancakes everyone now. It's crazy how much it happens. I really do think something changed because if I try I return 2-3 kicks a game. However, punt special teams are still good for the CPU.

My special teams doesn't. I just pick return middle, follow the wegde and try to hit the hole. If I get through, most of the time I'm taking it in for six. Sometimes they cover them up, some times they don't. Sometimes you have to make one or two people miss, but you blocking has to be there.

[ziggymundi]

Re: 2nd Patch Kick Returns FAR too Easy

Look, I know someone has brought a thread about this up, but it really needs more attention. After that second patch my special teams will pancake everyone and my blockers will pick up a defender every single time. It's absurd how easy it is to take one to the house. I litterally had to make a house rule for myself where I just have to run straight, but I still get about 40 yards a return. This is against the CPU on All-Madden mind you, I haven't tested this against other humans.

So is anyone else getting frustrated with this? Did EA break something while making this patch?

They did say they did something to the run blocking slider effectiveness to NOT have it affect special teams. I personally think it has worked opposite of that statement......

[XtremeDunkz]

Re: 2nd Patch Kick Returns FAR too Easy

It is DEFINITELY broken. Me and my 2 friends run a franchise together and since the patch all 3 of us have ran at least one kick back in every game. The blockers pancake all the defenders and most of the time you have to juke one guy and then you are gone..this right now is a GAMEKILLER since there is no way to fix it.

[Mr. Franchise]

Re: 2nd Patch Kick Returns FAR too Easy

I don't know what you guys are talking about, but my players are too stupid to actually get to the blocks. They just run past 'em. I have run 1 kick back in about 20 games though, but I used a Tecmo Bowl type of zig-zag technique.

[bengtc]

Re: 2nd Patch Kick Returns FAR too Easy

This is getting ridiculous, 10 user run block(pre and post patch) and 55 cpu block shedding(20 block shedding pre patch). Custom sliders where difficulty is between all pro and all madden.

Played 2 full seasons before patch, averaged 28 yds per return 2 td's.

Using same player post patch and playing a full season, 40 yds per return and 8 td's.

What I noticed was that now post patch the run block slider does not affect returns as Ian has stated. Now my blockers pancake the defenders alot more and stick with their blocks, while pre patch the majority of my blockers would do the "whiff" block animation because the run block slider was set so low. I use middle return and the 5 or 6 players setting up the wedge all pancake the defenders they block.

[Glorious Arc]

Re: 2nd Patch Kick Returns FAR too Easy

Pre-patch I was in week 8 with 6 kick returns with Parrish(sp). For some strange reason, I cant kick return with anyone else but with him. I havent played as much post-patch yet, so I cant say if it is easier or harder.

[bengtc]

Re: 2nd Patch Kick Returns FAR too Easy

For the people that are not noticing a difference or finding it harder after the patch, what was your run blocking slider set at pre patch??

[FootballDetails]

Re: 2nd Patch Kick Returns FAR too Easy

I played a game against someone that started with back-to-back kickoff returns for touchdowns.